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SlimFastSupra
02-26-2005, 06:52 AM
Any part that should be made that would benefit us all?

Usually the minimum run is 100 pieces or so, so it should be something small (cheap).

We can either copy something rare, or create something that has been planned in your head for years.

Aluminum or Steel. Off the top of my head I can't think of anything that isn't too complicated. Some ideas:

-Real sized aluminum spacers for MR2 struts
-MK3 radiator adapter brackets
-300ZX Caliper Spacers (instead of washers)



It's hard to come up with something "mass production", but shout what you can think of.

85 rat rod
02-26-2005, 07:01 AM
heres a couple,
an economical short shifter bracket (i have an idea that might make this work)

a real adaptor plate that will allow the use of aftermarket blades on the drivers side of later model supras,

80 amp alt 5m conversion pulleys

4 to 5 lug wheel adaptors that do little to nothing to offsett,

a servicable u joint setup,

some of the above may just be stupid, but im serious about economy short shifter brackets, and aftermarket adapter brackets for late model drivers side,

edit: my idea on paper (please dont hurt me)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/fire_flame_burn/shortthrow.jpg

Chrisfrom1986
02-26-2005, 07:46 AM
i havent found any pulley kits, but maybe thats something undesirable in the eyes of the masses. id really like to see those hks cams get copied, or a cheaper intake pipe. bolt on 5 lug swap would be hot.

SlimFastSupra
02-26-2005, 03:55 PM
I'm with you on the shifter, but how do you intend to join the stock shifter with the "extension" piece you have shown?

The height adapter is pretty easy.

Doesn't jim king still make them?

CJSREDPRA
02-26-2005, 04:29 PM
I'm with you on the shifter, but how do you intend to join the stock shifter with the "extension" piece you have shown?

The height adapter is pretty easy.

Doesn't jim king still make them?

Now I would like to know how this works as well!!!!

I see the height adapter, so that it raises the pivot point (thus you now have a shorter throw), but if you're retaining the stock lever, how will you get the ball & bushing back down into the hole, since it won't be long enough??? Cut & extend that part on the lever??? Sounds ghetto to me...

Jim does not make the SS assemblies, the fabricator that assembled all of them for our GP makes them & sells them via SupraSport.com.

supratruck
02-26-2005, 05:47 PM
Center plates for making your own adjustable cam gears from stock gears like the Jun gears are made.

KesekiSupra
02-26-2005, 06:48 PM
heres one, a spark plug gally cover. something so it doesnt look so bare. :P

dannymk2
02-26-2005, 07:05 PM
heres one, a spark plug gally cover. something so it doesnt look so bare. :P

something like this?
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/692000-692999/692620_8_full.jpg

Andrew
02-26-2005, 07:06 PM
heres one, a spark plug gally cover. something so it doesnt look so bare. :P

I'm with this, if we can make a spark plug valley cover, that would be awesome.

Chrisfrom1986
02-26-2005, 07:26 PM
heres one, a spark plug gally cover. something so it doesnt look so bare. :P
and so i dont get water in the spark plug holes when i play boat... :roll:

dogstar
02-26-2005, 07:39 PM
heh, ive been thinking about a galley cover for a while now, just no time/patience to make it.

itd be easy to make, just drafting time.

and rat rod, not to be negative, but most of the things you suggested are assemblies that are beyond the abilities of many cnc machines.

pulleys for example, would probably take a 6 axis lathe to make.

the adaptor plate for wiper blades is a good idea, but i see it involving fairly complex bends, maybe someone can design something better than i had in mind.

4 to 5 lug adaptors WILL change offset, unless you can find someone who can make stub axles.
that would be nice, but again, far beyond the capabilities of most machine shops.

servicable u joints is easy, go to a local driveshaft/drivetrain shop, and get a driveshaft made up that has replacable u joints. :)
lol, not exactly what you were suggesting, but no matter how its done, the driveshafts gonna have to be cut and welded, then rebalanced.... which means a trip to a decent driveshaft place.

Chrisfrom1986
02-26-2005, 11:14 PM
pulleys for example, would probably take a 6 axis lathe to make.
that was me...

why would a 5 lug change offset?

KesekiSupra
02-26-2005, 11:23 PM
yea a cover like that, but not like that. props to whoever it is that owns it (i know they are on this forum, i just forgot their name) but maybe sumthing thats powdercoated with Supra lettering going down would be badass. or even 2800 or 3000 depending on motor u have :D or even Toyota, id buy any of those if they were made

SupraWes
02-27-2005, 12:35 AM
Adaptor plate to mate a T5 Shortshifter to a W58 Trabsmission.

Tire Shredder
02-27-2005, 12:43 AM
I probably wouldn't spend the money on the plug valley cover but still would be nice to see a stainless one that fit perfectly, maybe had SUPRA in the hatch sticker font etched into it.

I think another member is looking into but perhaps a nice battery tie down (aluminum)? would be pretty cheap to make I would think...

Chrisfrom1986
02-27-2005, 02:46 AM
for the people wanting to make a short shifter...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33736&item=7957671 888&rd=1
it says modified short shifter, sure would be nice to know what was modified on what brand huh?

williamb82
02-27-2005, 02:19 PM
ive said it before and ill say it again. a oil pump drive gear for a 7mgte in a smaller diameter to overdrive the oilpump which will build low rpm oil pressure significantly over stock but since the pressure is increased without adjusting the releif spring the max pressure remains unchanged.
william

dogstar
02-27-2005, 03:21 PM
one problem with that william, is then both gears need to change sizes, unless you can find a way to change where the axis of the drive gear is located.
if you dont, you wont get proper meshing of the teeth, which = stipped teeth, or a lot of slap and slop.

and chrisfromda909, the reason i say 5 lug adaptors will change offset is because unless your changing axles, or you can find some way to push the hub further in, you have got to deal with the fact that the adaptors are going to be a certain thickness.
other than redrilling the stock hubs for a different bolt pattern, which i dont think is safe, and may not even be possible (havent looked at em in a while).
so basically, youve gotta have something between the hubs and wheels which will change the bolt pattern right.... hence why you will have offset change.

if your interested in a bolt pattern change with minimal offset changes, check out rsdeos long ass thread in the drivetrain section, tons of good info in there.

Funkycheeze
02-27-2005, 06:26 PM
not only that, but with the decreased gear reduction, the oil pump might cavitate at high RPM causing a loss of oil pressure (not good!)

Junkie
02-27-2005, 06:30 PM
William is talking about the belt driven gear under the timing cover.Still not sure this is a good idea,but figured I would give you guys the correct mental picture :wink:

MK2Racer
02-27-2005, 06:53 PM
MK3 Alternator conversion brackets.

I dont know, but maybe a nice set of EGR blockoff plates?

I think someone makes them already, could be wrong, but the bracket you need to mount a clutch pedal in an auto -> 5sp swap.

Thats all for now...

dogstar
02-27-2005, 08:30 PM
MK3 Alternator conversion brackets.

I dont know, but maybe a nice set of EGR blockoff plates?

I think someone makes them already, could be wrong, but the bracket you need to mount a clutch pedal in an auto -> 5sp swap.

Thats all for now...


ive already got EGR blockoffs, prototyped, theyre ready to draft and laser cut.

if people are interested, i can definitely make it more of a priority project.

Chrisfrom1986
02-27-2005, 09:00 PM
and chrisfromda909, the reason i say 5 lug adaptors will change offset is because unless your changing axles, or you can find some way to push the hub further in, you have got to deal with the fact that the adaptors are going to be a certain thickness.
other than redrilling the stock hubs for a different bolt pattern, which i dont think is safe, and may not even be possible (havent looked at em in a while).
so basically, youve gotta have something between the hubs and wheels which will change the bolt pattern right.... hence why you will have offset change.

if your interested in a bolt pattern change with minimal offset changes, check out rsdeos long ass thread in the drivetrain section, tons of good info in there.
i actually meant a swap without fabrication, not adapters. i misread what you wrote the first time.

MK2Racer
02-27-2005, 09:46 PM
I thought someone had em...

As I have a 6m, no use for me, but I was thinking of others. When I had a 5m I considered this, just never got around to it for lack of the plates. I thought maybe someone would be in the same boat.

85 rat rod
02-28-2005, 06:02 AM
the shift rod extension piece i had in mind, was wide enough to fit over the bal of the stock shifter (without having to cut it off, and would tighten down on the shifter via a couple of stragicly placed allen headed studs (much like the way a threadless aftermarket shift knob goes on, and how a cintrifugal clutch for a minibike/gokart goes on) i figure with either example you all will get the picture therfore allowing the new extension rod to be fitted back into the transmission with a new nylon bushing (id be happy if my transmission quit eating them) but it sounded like a cool idea (one of these days ill get around to making/getting the parts made and ill do a writeup)

williamb82
02-28-2005, 03:43 PM
one problem with that william, is then both gears need to change sizes, unless you can find a way to change where the axis of the drive gear is located.
if you dont, you wont get proper meshing of the teeth, which = stipped teeth, or a lot of slap and slop.

.

as shawn mentioned i was refering to the belt driven gear and it would work. ive sen it done on other vehicles. the trick is to make sure it isnt too small. as in so small that the tensioner wont be able to take up the slack.

82phoenix
02-28-2005, 04:52 PM
MK3 Alternator conversion brackets.

I dont know, but maybe a nice set of EGR blockoff plates?

I think someone makes them already, could be wrong, but the bracket you need to mount a clutch pedal in an auto -> 5sp swap.

Thats all for now...


ive already got EGR blockoffs, prototyped, theyre ready to draft and laser cut.

if people are interested, i can definitely make it more of a priority project.


I don't know how many people are interested in teh EGR block off plates, but i sure as heck am. I wanna clean my engine bay up, get rid of the EGR and a few other things.

Frank_MA61
02-28-2005, 11:45 PM
How about something to replace the Rack&Pinion bushings?

Two halves that you fasten together around the R&P to replace the bushing and then you bolt it up to the xmember with your OE bracket....Or provisions on the part to bolt it directly to the xmember without use of the OE bracket. Either machined out of metal or delrin.

I just thunk that up while sitting on the crapper. :P

Im positive something like that would sell.

TOYMAN321
03-01-2005, 04:38 AM
for the people wanting to make a short shifter...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33736&item=7957671 888&rd=1
it says modified short shifter, sure would be nice to know what was modified on what brand huh?

That mod is pretty well known and definitly not worth what the ebay auction is going for....

On another note.... maybe a throttle body spacer?

SlimFastSupra
03-02-2005, 02:26 AM
BTW: If anyone can do the CAD work we can really save on the items.


I would prefer smaller items right now, while I get a feel for the costs. So that rules out the spark plug cover.

Something easy and a single piece would be great.

935motorsports
11-23-2005, 07:14 PM
any fresh ideas?

zank
11-23-2005, 07:21 PM
any fresh ideas?

ask Mr Frosty King if he needs any brackets for the Mr Frosty AC system :)

lechner
11-23-2005, 10:47 PM
It was already mentioned, but an adapter for the drivers side windshield wiper would be small and simple. It could be entirely flat, although the shape would be somewhat complex. It would need to duplicate the OEM wiper's large round holes and 2 screw holes, and then form into a standard bayonett end for an aftermarket blade to mount to. See here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/looperboy81/2005_0221Image0128.jpg) to get an idea what I mean. (Picture borrowed from this thread, (http://www.celicasupra.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=11769) where there are lots more.

pdupler
11-23-2005, 11:15 PM
How about a set of mounting brackets to attach a stock mk3 intercooler, three needed: two attaching the bottom to the lower radiator support and one to attach the top center to the bumper/hoodlatch support. I figure probably 80% of the 7mgte conversions as well as the 5 and 6m turbos use the mk3 intercooler. I fashioned some brackets from L shaped braces found in the cabinet section of Home Depot, but somehow my Stanley brand brackets just don't look real professional. Would be nice to have a hardpipe kit available too that assumes using the mk3 intercooler (both styles) and the stock 3000 pipe. You'd sell a few copies of that setup for sure. Aarons got a nice setup on his web site, but I think alot of people are not ready to spend on a custom intercooler and pipes all at once, especially having just spent on the swap itself.

Supra_devil
11-23-2005, 11:41 PM
heres a couple,
an economical short shifter bracket (i have an idea that might make this work)

edit: my idea on paper (please dont hurt me)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/fire_flame_burn/shortthrow.jpg



i don't believe that this idea would work, my short shifter changed the fulcrum point by 1/2 inch or 3/8, can't remember, that adapter piece wouldn't really work for such a small distance i would think. Also i have never had one of the aftermarket shifters stay on with allen screws, so i wouldn't trust the same method to hold on such an important part of shifting my car.

one thing i made that some people might want is a lower brace for the turbo manifold on the 5/6m. i don't know about some people but a heavy turbo and manifold bolted to an Alu head always worried me.

935motorsports
11-24-2005, 01:14 AM
I'm not into that shifter idea. Now that the cheap mookeeh shifter is out, it wouldn't make as much sense now.

Phil:

Can you fashion me a spare bracket to copy from? Moorman had brackets on his stock IC similar to what you have. It put his intercooler quite low, was yours the same way?

CNC requires lots of pieces, so if that is out of the question, some powder coated steel brackets could at least be done.

pdupler
11-24-2005, 09:39 AM
I don't think you want to copy mine, its just pieces of flat corner brace from home depot that I bent to take advantage of the threaded holes that were already there on the car - anybody can do that themselves. I can take some closeup pics next week and let you see how I did it then decide if you think you could make something that looked more professional for sale. Mabe others could send you pics how they did it too and you could draw from the best ideas.

supra_toy
11-24-2005, 10:24 AM
I like the idea of the throtle body spacer seems the right size and fairly simple to make. How about a TB spacer with nitrous fitttings? I've always wanted to giggle gas the girl...

will

85supra_ftw
11-25-2005, 12:48 PM
ive already got EGR blockoffs, prototyped, theyre ready to draft and laser cut.

if people are interested, i can definitely make it more of a priority project.

If there isnt a plate what are people using to block it off?

[QUOTE=TOYMAN321]That mod is pretty well known and definitly not worth what the ebay auction is going for....

On another note.... maybe a throttle body spacer?[/QUOTE

if a spacer is made could a cork screw to swirl the air be added to the design?