Any one done Thermos into an MA4x? (Pics ~ 56K Killer) [Archive]

ZZT231

03-10-2005, 07:24 AM

Hey All,

Has anyone installed thermos onto an MA4x with a 5M-E? If so can you please tell me as I would like to do it on my 5M.

Cheers.

batmobile

03-10-2005, 07:05 PM

supra-drew

03-10-2005, 10:09 PM

Are you talking about the custom air intake? Cause I read a couple of yrs ago about a fella who used the lid from a thermos in such a project. I'm sorry the supras are relatively new to me, what's an MA4x? :?

ZZT231

03-10-2005, 10:43 PM

Thermostatic fans...

Ross

03-11-2005, 08:18 AM

And why would the engine make any difference?

Any fans for an MA61 will fit, or pretty much any fans period.

ZZT231

03-11-2005, 08:47 AM

Ross,

I got genuine Ford AU Falcon Fans to install tomorrow, I'll post pics of what I have done. I just wanted to see how people were able to mount the thermo switch as I am going to use the Davis Craig Thermo sensor which sits on the radiator with a copper probe in the top radiator hose. Also I wanted to see different alternatives in sensor and fans being used.

Cheers.

SupraWes

03-11-2005, 12:45 PM

Check out the fan install on my website. I bolted the thermostat to the end plate of the radiator near the water opening

www.tscperformance.com

ZZT231

03-11-2005, 06:54 PM

Thanks for that Wes, disadvantage of Australia is that we don't have the Flex-a-lite fans avaliable (from what I know and importing them is completely out of the question as I will get bankcrupt in buying it and shipping it over. If I could find Flex-a-lite cheaper and were avaliable in Australia I would consider it but since I couldn't find them the rest is history :( . My conversion works out around USD$400 for everything including wires, thermo sensor and the most expensive part fan shroud/fan.

Ross

03-12-2005, 07:51 AM

Many people use Davies Craig fans which are Australian.
I think flexalite may be Davies Craig OEMs anyway

ZZT231

03-12-2005, 08:27 AM

It's cheaper to get the AU thermos as the 2x 13" Craig Davis fans are more expensive :( otherwise I would have gone down that route.

white_mk_2

03-12-2005, 12:00 PM

I have the same sensor/adjustable thermostat that you're talking about. I'm using an electric fan out of a Volvo S80. It's made by Bosch and it was cheap (mine was used, they're over $300 new). My only suggestion is to add a master power kill switch. I've had mine run on (and on and on) and drain the battery. This would only happen sometimes but when you gotta go somewhere (like work in the morning) it sucks. The other alternative that I'm going to work on is to run the power or ground through a relay that will only be hot with the key on.

StanS

03-12-2005, 09:14 PM

my 2 cents. i think that the #150 blasck magic here http://www.flex-a-lite.com/auto/html/black-magic.html is the right fan if it can be mounted. It blows 2800 cfm at 13.9 amps which is low current for that much air. Also it will fit the shroud better so all of the radiator is used for cooling. And the blades are relatively thin so they won't block airflo where there's a load on the engine such as at very hi speeds.

white_mk_2

03-14-2005, 09:21 AM

That's a nice fan, very low amp draw. I just checked Summit, and they have it for $199. I'll definitely keep it in mind.

1Smooth85

03-14-2005, 11:46 AM

That's a nice fan, very low amp draw. I just checked Summit, and they have it for $199. I'll definitely keep it in mind.

They have the same fan in JEG"S for 120, it is the exact same fan, My friend owns a 5.0 and he put one on his car last week, he showed it to me in the JEG"S catalog on friday.

Here is link to it Click Here (http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=120363&prmenbr=361)

white_mk_2

03-14-2005, 12:34 PM

That's a nice fan, very low amp draw. I just checked Summit, and they have it for $199. I'll definitely keep it in mind.

They have the same fan in JEG"S for 120, it is the exact same fan, My friend owns a 5.0 and he put one on his car last week, he showed it to me in the JEG"S catalog on friday.

Here is link to it Please Click Here (http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=120363&prmenbr=361)

Damn! That's a waaaay better deal. Thanks!

1Smooth85

03-14-2005, 12:37 PM

[Damn! That's a waaaay better deal. Thanks!

No problem

StanS

03-14-2005, 01:06 PM

Note the 4 1/4" depth. u mite have to move the radiator ~ 1/2" forward. Looks like no big deal tho.

ZZT231

03-14-2005, 08:30 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/CelicaSupra/ThermoRadiator/6eab3e87.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/CelicaSupra/ThermoRadiator/297a7221.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/CelicaSupra/ThermoRadiator/bba34228.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/CelicaSupra/ThermoRadiator/a57f7168.jpg

All done, now I have to figure out what temprature of the thermostat needs to be installed.

StanS

03-14-2005, 09:32 PM

Nice job. thermo is 88 deg C (190 F) so i would go 90-91 C (195 F)

ZZT231

03-15-2005, 02:29 AM

How would I set it manually? Is there a way to tell the temp of the engine with a multimeter or something?

Cheers.

StanS

03-15-2005, 01:04 PM

set thermo at middle and at idle decrease thermo temp setting till dash temp guage reads the same as it was when it was stock.

StanS

03-15-2005, 01:47 PM

Here's the Universal version that Proform resells #67017
http://www.proformparts.com/v2/catalog/Catalog2005V2rp.pdf but I don't know where u can buy one. I pm'd them asking for that info. Also, Summit sells the Mustang (#67015) one for $125 same as Jegs.