another look at anti war protestors...hahaha

[Malloy]

http://brain-terminal.com/video/nyc-2003-02-15/

Kinda scary if ya ask me. :silly:

Watch both the NYC and San Fran one.

[Brian]

Holy crap!!!!!!!!!!What a bunch of IDIOTS!!!!! :silly:

[GreyFalcon]

All they have is an opinion, certainly no love for their Country. Perhaps if they had the balls to serve they might grow enough of a brain to see the real world for what it is. They could care less about what happens to Iraq, if they new anything about what happens there, they wouldn't be protesting. I was spit on by similar fools when I came back from Vietnam. If it happens to my son when he comes back from Iraq, I'm liable to take it personally. :evil:

[Malloy]

grey: I hope your son makes it home safely :usa

[SilverMk2]

LOL! I swear the world is 98% full of stupid people some times, and that # might be optimistic.

[GreyFalcon]

Thanks Malloy.

[dohc82]

Since this is an international forum maybe we should post this elsewhere?
just a thought. Not trying to start anything

[wallcrawlr]

Pray for the POW's.

[Supra Bob]

Grey,

When your some comes home, let him know there is a Marine in Quantico that wants to buy him a beer and shake his hand.

Just found out yesterday that my old unit is over there, and I still have alot of friends in that unit. A large part of me wishes I was there with them...

As for the protestors... let them protest now that we found the chemical weapons factory... morons..

[Malloy]

Yea, and a lame sales guy in the Philly area will also buy a round. :drinking:

I actually had a protestor attempt to block my path of travel Fri night in Phila. I was 1st in line at the traffic light, and this dumbass decides to walk in front of me and sit down (300ft or so). Heh, as the light changed, all 200ft lbs of torque in my little FWD VW sent the tires up in smoke.....as I shifted into 2nd still burning the tires, bouncing off the rev limiter he decided to get up REAL FAST. Yea, Bob, it has a rev limited haha.

I really really HATE the ignorant clueless people who pull those stunts.

[Supra Bob]

Yea, and a lame sales guy in the Philly area will also buy a round. :drinking:



You seem to be a pretty popular guy to be a "lame Sales Guy".. lol



I actually had a protestor attempt to block my path of travel Fri night in Phila. I was 1st in line at the traffic light, and this dumbass decides to walk in front of me and sit down (300ft or so). Heh, as the light changed, all 200ft lbs of torque in my little FWD VW sent the tires up in smoke.....as I shifted into 2nd still burning the tires, bouncing off the rev limiter he decided to get up REAL FAST. Yea, Bob, it has a rev limited haha.

I really really HATE the ignorant clueless people who pull those stunts.

Hehe... something similar happened to me the other day. Was escorting a prisoner to jail in Alexandria, and a couple of them walked out and sat down in front of my cruiser. I wish I coulda done like you did, but thats not an option in a CNG powered Crown Vic... So I got out and told him to move. They didn't do much until we got the K-9 out of the chase car... amazing how quick people will move when confronted with a trained attack dog barking and straining at its leash...

:D

[RaptorRacing]

Kuddo's to all those brave souls out there fighting their hearts out...and prayer to the families who have already lost their loved ones...nuff said

From one highly embarrassed and ashamed Canadian. :oops:

George

[Supra Bob]

If anyone is interested in ways to help out and support the troops...

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/templatereleaseview1/CD3292B453E7429085256CF000174F45?opendocument

[Malloy]

Cool link man. I need to get on some of that, its the least I can do. :usa

Bob: expect a call from me tomorrow. I have some questions about your bike.

[Supra Bob]

Cool deal Mike... Best time to call me is after 3pm. I *should* be awake by then. If not, leave a message and I'll call ya back when I do get up.

[dohc82]

Its easy to take a bunch of video and then edit it to make people look bad...what about the people who answered his questions well? We dont see them. His last line is the best...just because people disagree doesnt make them evil.
Bring the boys and girls back home!

[Malloy]

The guy claims on his site, that he portrayed all but 2 or 3 people who he interviewed. He seems like a stand up guy, who stayed rather neutral when speaking and relied on facts.

Afterall, he wasnt the one wearing a skull mask, comparing Bush to Hitler, burning american flags or chanting "down with the USA"

The last 2 pieces were not from his video, but from a video I just saw of a Canadian anti war protest. Every day I wonder how people can be SO simple and SO easily manipulated....but after watching said protestors I just go deeper into a state of disbelief. It is truly a crying shame.

Anyone has the right to oppose anything. Even if it is not based on facts, who cares. But to go and curse a country as a whole, make moronic parallels, and let their hate hide any valid points they may have...is just beyond me. They are in fact becomnig the supposed beast they deplore. :roll:

Unfortunately, the guy at the end of the San Fran video is the exception, not the norm.

[dohc82]

Thank you for your calm and reasonable response. :) I was expecting to get slammed.

[Malloy]

No slam man. I never said I was happy about this war.

To be frank, we the common folk, no matter how educated on such matters.....really have NO CLUE as to what it really going on. This holds true with any scenario. We know what a 3rd party tells us. In this example, its the beloved media, heh.

The ignorance and sheer stupidity displayed by many of the protestors is appaling. Also, the blind 'F Iraq, bomb them terrorist ragheads' disguised as supposed Patriotism is also pathetic. Both scenarios involve uneducated folk who just ride the bandwagon. Pot kettle black?

Yeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :D

[dohc82]

Exactly so...we get the 24 hour Canadian news channels up here as well as the US channels but I find myself searching the web for unbiased information (very very little) but I am trying to get a broad perspective of the situation rather than just buying the government/media line. I just hope it ends well...not escalates.

[Malloy]

I read web sites from 4 countries, and its all pretty much the same stuff. I think the media is both Saddam and Dubya's best weapon.

[kjurkic]

A few nights back, on the Daily Show (with Jon Stewart) they featured some speeches from the Aussie parliament, The UK PM, and our own ultimate fence-sitter Jean Chretien. I wish to apologize for the behaviour of our PM, who only takes a firm stand for the gratification of his ego. Our PM has so gutted our military that we HAD TO BORROW UNIFORMS for the war in Afghanistan. I know that Canada, along with Europe, only enjoys freedom BECAUSE of the US.

I do not expect absolute truth from the US government; I am automatically suspicious of the motives for any governments action. I also paid attention in my history and politics class, and I KNOW that the US is doing the RIGHT thing. This should have been done the last time around, and I think this is what the true motivation for current action. The US helped create Saddam, and now the US must remove him.

I hope the war is short, and I hope that the Iraqis can find a leader or government who knows more than torture and firing squads. I hope the US will no longer support "Strong leaders" based solely on their opposition to communism. I hope the US will review its support of various nations around the world based on their treatment of people rather than economic convenience......I think this is turning into a backhanded endorsement...

Still, it is a far better thing that the US won the cold war; we can complain about it and NOT end up in the gulag, or "disappeared". This is the BIG thing that I think so many of the dim-witted protestors forget. No Iraqi has that privilege.

I am rambling, and playing with matches here, so will don my asbestos suit, and run for cover now.

Ken

[wallcrawlr]

Its easy to take a bunch of video and then edit it to make people look bad...what about the people who answered his questions well? We dont see them. His last line is the best...just because people disagree doesnt make them evil.
Bring the boys and girls back home!

If you would actually read his site that guy answers your question directly.

[GreyFalcon]

As a Vietnam veteran, I have reason to hate war more than most, and that comes directly from experience. I think our President did a poor job of qualifying the reasons for this war, that doesn't make him the bad guy, but I also think it is absolutely the right thing to do, and long past due at that. There is no place in this world for governments like Saddam's, and whatever the cost in lives and suffering on both sides, it will be much less, in his Country alone, than if he is left in power. What everyone should be protesting are the motives of the French. $$$$$$$BANKING$$$$$$$$$!!!!! World opinion might be vastly different if it weren't for their greedy motives.

[Racefiend]

What cracks me up is the "12 galaxies" guy on the San Fran vid. I used to see him all the time when I worked in Frisco. He would walk all over Financial district with his sign that read "12 galaxies unite..blah blah (cant remember)...Impeach Clinton!". After Bush got elected it changed to Impeach Bush. He walks around every day with the same oversized el cheapo suit. Real weird guy. Almost every time the local news does coverage of something in Frisco, he ends up in the background holding his sign up. This was the first time I'd heard him talk..and yes its confirmed...One weird dude. One of these days I want to stop and talk to him to see what the 12 galaxies are and exactly which planet he came from :shock:

Christian

[Supra Bob]

As a Vietnam veteran...


Grey... Make that two drinks I am buying... One for your son, and one for you. Name the time and place friend :)

[ma61_turbo]

French being greedy? They are simply doing what is best FOR THEIR COUNTRY, and you would do the same in their position.



I am sure that is the reason why George W essentially started all this. He sees it as in the best interests for the USA. I'm quite sure he's not doing it purely because Saddam is "evil" or whatever. Apart from the chem weapons, which seem to have been found, I haven't seen a real reason for the war. Let Saddam die from old age or whatever. George W is just playing into the hands of all extremists who see it as a war against Islam, ignorant of the fact that it has nothing to do with it.



This is going to be my last post about the subject. But I had to say something because of all the flaming that goes on everywhere. Just because somone is against the war, and makes their opinion known, doesn't make them a "moron". At least they have the balls to stand up and say to everyone "I'm against this war".

[GreyFalcon]

ma61_turbo, follow the money, and you may change your mind about France. I'm quite sure they are doing what's best for France, but no I would not have done what they did, I have to live with myself.

[Junkie]

I have done my homework,to the best of what is available to "joe blow".My "No Iraq War ' signs are now in the trash,never put up.I won't get into a flame war with anyone,lets just say I hope the coalition kicks ass-and FUCK THE FRENCH :mad: :snipersm:
I have a nephew on the Duluth (sp),a neighbor on the Lincoln "local boat" and possibly one of my best friends from high school in that transportation group with the POW's,can't find him,so I'm not sure.

I'll buy a round for any service member I meet for quite awhile now.Thanks guys :)

[wallcrawlr]

I hear ya.

:2gunfire: French :2gunfire: Syria :snipersm: Iraq :snipersm: Iran :2gunfire: North Korea, etc...