Wheel Size Survey

[jdk_ii]

My rules of this poll. :D


this is like a marketing survey
assume wheel style is fixed (one style, say BBS mesh)
end size is fixed (meaning you can't get a custom offset)
your screen name is public
adding replies is not required (or suggested)
Assume the wheels would cost max $1000/set

Simply, this is an attempt at getting MK2 customer demand for wheels
and the desired size.

We have very few wheel options and not everyone is willing (or able) to spend
big bucks on custom wheels.

Plus tire selection for the MK2 stock rims is getting very limited.

This allows a real stock MK2 an optional set of wheels for regular driving.

[Additions]
Note that getting anything made will be a challenge. The more coordinated
the size selection will only help convincing a company to make them.

16's would be most financially practical in terms of size, as the tires are less expensive.
This for the MK2 owner that wants to keep costs pragmatic.

I would only suggest 7" wide for L-Types.

[Tire Shredder]

Jim, you know I am extremley interested in this as we talked at the annual Toronto meet. However, I am currently a starving 18 year old university student and I don' think wheels are in my budget. Reproduction mk2 wheels with wide rear and 8" wide fronts. I am torn between 16s and 17s though.

[1suprafan]

I would like wheels for my L-type that are 16 x 7 with a 18-20 mm offset.

[Supra GTR]

This survey might get thrown off by the different needs/fitments for the P vs. L types. So you might need to specify that it's for both or for just the p-type (noticing the larger widths).

Regards,
James R

[BillyM]

....no option for staggered 16x8 front, 17x9.5 rear. Dave's got this on his white beast in Cali and it looks HOT. I mean... absolutely SMOKING.

..and screw ltypes, get some fenders, weinies.

--BillyM

[Deanfun]

....no option for staggered 16x8 front, 17x9.5 rear. Dave's got this on his white beast in Cali and it looks HOT. I mean... absolutely SMOKING.

..and screw ltypes, get some fenders, weinies.

--BillyMsuch anger... L-type envy, perhaps?

[Dangerous Ken]

My rules of this poll. :D

I would only suggest 7" wide for L-Types.

Well, I'd just like to add that the front P type fitment works well for the rear of the L type. So L types just need a 7" wide fitment for the front.

Ken

[jugalo]

As far as shear drivability is concerned, 16x8's are perfect on our cars. You cant beat the look of 17's but they beat the hell out of you over every expansion joint and imperfection in the road. 16's would be the practicle choice for me.
Bill

[joefoe]

As far as shear drivability is concerned, 16x8's are perfect on our cars. You cant beat the look of 17's but they beat the hell out of you over every expansion joint and imperfection in the road. 16's would be the practicle choice for me.
Bill

yes but even 16" tires are getting harder to find, 17" gets you what ever tire you want....

[SupraWes]

yes but even 16" tires are getting harder to find, 17" gets you what ever tire you want....


What? Go to tirerack.com and type in 225/50/16 there is always over 90 different tires in that size, how many more choices do you need?

[Supra GTR]

245/45R16 :)

Regards,
James R

[CanuckDave]

I want 16x8s with 245s all around. I love konig rewinds, just wish they made them in a bit bigger size than 15x7

[85_6mge]

It's all about performance tire availability (16x8) and how larger wheels (17's) look on our cars. I think proportion of body / wheel is important and think 17's look out of place. Just my .02 cents worth.

[BuddyJ]

Agreed. I think 17's start looking too big. 16x8 with a near-zero offset is my choice. Our cars need a few things when it comes to wheels. They need a good lip, and they need a good center that carries on the angular body lines and doesn't show too much brake. Traditional (old school) wheels like SSR meshies, Star Sharks and Hoshinos are my favorites.

[lechner]

I'd agree with Billy (and Dave): 16x8 front, 17x9.5 rear is Perfect
17's look to big on the front. But any of these sizes would be OK if The Price is Right.

[Phil G.]

I think 16 x 8 all around would be good for my needs if I ever went that way (I do dig the Compomotives on yer UPS special JDK) :)

I love the look of the stock wheels though even though they are puny 14's.

[jdk_ii]

I think 16 x 8 all around would be good for my needs if I ever went that way (I do dig the Compomotives on yer UPS special JDK) :)

I love the look of the stock wheels though even though they are puny 14's.

A practical response. ;)

I figure that those that want to maintain their MK2 as stock may want
an extra set of shoes for driving. The other set to retain for the ultimate
stock appearance (and keep what good tires they have).

What's up with that leaf blower?!?!

[williamb82]

id want 17x7.5 front 0 offset and 17x10 +15(what i plan to order from braid). or realisticlly, for the repos your talking about, 17x7.5(widest i can go up front due to suspension) and 17x9 0 offset.

[KCheng]

16 x 8, near zero offset
OR
16 x 8, 16 x 9-ish

for me whatever is good depending on whats avaliable

[Kevin Kisseberth]

stock oem with in 16"

[Kevin Kisseberth]

stock oem with in 16" never happen but thats what I want

[OlSupraguy]

Ditto what Kevin said

[Suprajayaz]

16x8 - one can run 245/45 tires and many of us use this size for F&R. 15 diff. tires avail. between Tirerack (TR)/Discount Tire Direct (DT)
16x9 - a good tire size would be 275/40 - but there are "0" tires on TR or DT for 16" so one would need to run the same 245/45's.. These might looked stretched on a 9" wheel - even if TR says 245 can go to 9"..

A stock wheel in 16x8 would be awesome - I could only vote once though.
Get me some Racing Hart C2's in 16 or 17x8 - and I'd be in heaven..
Jay B in AZ

[jdk_ii]

I do have a source for a wheel casting that would be far less expensive
for a MK2 16" replica.

It's just an end numbers game.

Easily 30 sets (120 wheels) would be required.

[Dangerous Ken]

a MK2 16" replica.


More lip please and I'm in.

Ken

[williamb82]

for stock oem wheels. id say 16x7 and 16x8 in 0 offset would prolly be the best bet. 225's up front and 245's in the back.

[Phil G.]

A practical response. ;)

I figure that those that want to maintain their MK2 as stock may want
an extra set of shoes for driving. The other set to retain for the ultimate
stock appearance (and keep what good tires they have).

What's up with that leaf blower?!?!

That's an excellent idea. Stock for show and custom for go. I'm trying to picture in my head the proportion of the stock-looking wheel in 16" with a 50 series profile....can't seem to get that picture in there...

My leaf blower is coming along....just waiting for a custom air cleaner to allow the hood to close and the splitter tips to finish it. Car sounds MEAN and will frighten small children and pets....

[williamb82]

these are 50 series tires on my car, 225/50/16 front and 245/50/16 rear. have someone photoshop stock wheel centers on them.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/williamb82/willspics025.jpg

[Phil G.]

William - is that picture blurry or is that back wheel a complete baloney skin?? I think race slicks have more tread :D

I'm no photoshop expert (or even a novice) so maybe someone else can roll with it....

[jdk_ii]

Here's a photochop I did quite some time ago of Greg's car with 16" proportioned wheels.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/jdk_ii/GregsNewWheels.jpg


This was for you know who.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/jdk_ii/MikesNewWheels.jpg

[Phil G.]

Is it wrong to not like the way that looks??

*Phil G. gets out phone book and inquires about wheels anonymous*

[jdk_ii]

Is it wrong to not like the way that looks??

*Phil G. gets out phone book and inquires about wheels anonymous*
:zzzzz:

[zank]

This was for you know who.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/jdk_ii/MikesNewWheels.jpg


Thats what Im talking about buddy, mk2 Dubbs rims, but with a nice big lip ......... :drooling:

[KesekiSupra]

i voted for 17's staggered, id rather have 16's tho, but as stated before, cant find any 275/40/16.

[Daves2JZGTE]

if you get a 16X8@0 in stock rim id buy a set JUST BECAUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[williamb82]

William - is that picture blurry or is that back wheel a complete baloney skin?? I think race slicks have more tread :D

I'm no photoshop expert (or even a novice) so maybe someone else can roll with it....


they have 2 tread lines but not very deep. they are nitto nt555r's that are worn down pretty good and grip awesome. hehehe. good thing about them is the balder they get the better they grab. i got some new ones in 275/50/15 for track use.

[sarinas_dragons]

If we got just the centers cast we would enjoy the benefit of individual fitment needs by using available rim-halves. No other choice gives us this option. If the cost is related to the amount of material then there would be reduced cost from reduced material. One could afford different size centers this way. Six centers would allow for many tuning combinations if we included the stock sizes, too. Combine that with the sizes a friend might have bought. This much choice is a step in the right direction. It is the only step in the right direction. Hear me now and understand me later...Cast 15-16-17 centers for president/presidente/prime minister!and Govenor.

[zank]

This was for you know who.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/jdk_ii/MikesNewWheels.jpg

I was messing with Photoshop again and came up with this

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/zank/School%20shit/MikesNewWheelsdropped.jpg

[SDRmk2]

I was messing with Photoshop again and came up with this

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/zank/School%20shit/MikesNewWheelsdropped.jpg

That looks pretty cool. :crossjerk

[dualtips]

16x8's i think would be best, answer the problems of most

[Kevin Kisseberth]

after looking at the stock wheels in that picture no I do not like anymore. HHH

[Jose H. 3]

I haven't voted because I want a combination of two... my dream is a set of OEM style wheels, but in a 17" staggered fitment... 17 x 8 ish by 17 x 9 ish... i want a good offset with a deep lip... in my opinion those other photochops of the oversized OEM wheels sucked, no offense to the creators... but it gave me some drive to actually get what i want on paper, er, digital paper (yeah thats it)... so i stole some images and threw something together... hope no one minds me using the pics... enjoy my dreaming... :woot: :facesjump

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a33/mkii85supra/OEM17inStaggered.jpg

... and if i could get these for around $1600, I would be all over them!!! :zzzzz:

[RedP85]

That would be a gorgeous set of wheels
-congrats of the photoshop

[sarinas_dragons]

I agree. That looks to be the biggest street size. But it would still be better if they were modular centers so we could mix-'n'-match for individual fitment. Why wouldn't I want 12" wide rear wheels with racing slicks? I would to modify my rear fenders and tub the wheelwells to be a poser. Nice job on the picture. My car's body condition has enough issues that it's not restorable.

[Jose H. 3]

Thanks for the compliments... i have to agree with kenny that modular wheels would be awesome... it would look really good, and almost stock if the face had a lip to the front between the spokes (kind of like stock, where the first bump up is) and have the bolts go through that portion, and not the face of the spokes... i've got big dreams... and shallow pockets... damn

[Daves2JZGTE]

Hooooooooolllllllyyyy Shit I Like That

[Jose H. 3]

sweet... good reaction

[Jose H. 3]

"and for you know who"... i have no idea who that was supposed to be for the first time... but i was bored... wondered how it would look... maybe i should try dropping the car and tucking some wheel "yo".... ha ha.... enjoy anyhow :facesjump

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a33/mkii85supra/DUBS.jpg

[RedP85]

More isn't always better (IMO)

[Jose H. 3]

I was just messing around... my original photochop... the 17" in my opinion is pretty optimal... 18" tops... but the first pic i did is 17"... that last one was just a joke...(IMO) ha

[sarinas_dragons]

modular centers......modular centers......modular centers.........modular centers.......................
MODULAR CEn.t....e......r.........s........s......

[Supra GTR]

17" staggered fitment stock looking wheels (17" center with reverse polished lip) for $1600. I'd be all over that.

[suprizin]

I just bought a set of wheels from, RABID CHIMP. Their 17's x 8 front 17's x 9 rear and powder coated gloss black, also their 5 spokes with a 2" lip!.. I think they looked pretty good before the coating, but gloss black looks hot on any color car. So my question is, what's wrong with these? Are they that ugly? How come no one ever mentions them.

[KCheng]

I just bought a set of wheels from, RABID CHIMP. Their 17's x 8 front 17's x 9 rear and powder coated gloss black, also their 5 spokes with a 2" lip!.. I think they looked pretty good before the coating, but gloss black looks hot on any color car. So my question is, what's wrong with these? Are they that ugly? How come no one ever mentions them.
what exactly is the brand

[zank]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a33/mkii85supra/DUBS.jpg

Now thats freaking HOT! :)

[suprizin]

I Think Their The ...roh Wheel Set, And I Picked Them Up For Under A $1,000.00.
Definitly Will Go With The Black Mkii Custom Wheels, If Ever Produced Though, Them Shitz Is Tight!

[Supra GTR]

Because the ROH group buy has long since been over... and the Snyper style is discotinued.

[williamb82]

i understand they are techniclly discontinued, but since they prolly still have the mold, is there any possible way we could order more sets and get them to make another run? i know id be in for a set for sure. no matter how long it takes them to arrive.

[suprizin]

let's say,.. i don't have a choice but to go the expensive way... that is going custom, is there a company that could make a 16" or 17" stock supra rim , with a little lip of course.

[85supra_ftw]

I definatly want to do the 16/17 F/R stagger
I think it looks the best

[lechner]

I really think we need to make 16/17 F/R stagger a poll option. 56% of the current votes prefer wider wheels in the back and I think this option may bring those votes together. 16x8/16x9 is a bad choice because of hard to find rubber for 16x9. 17x8/17x9 means expensive front tires as well as back and a rougher ride from the front than 16x8. 16x8's are relatively cheap and easy to find rubber for and if you are producing these for the front of a staggered set, the people that want these all the way around can have them. And those that prefer the look of a 17x9 rear would have the best of both worlds.

[jdk_ii]

The results are interesting, to say the least. ;)

The split between 16 and 17's obviously creates two mfg setups.

And the staggered wheel offsets creates another assembly setup.

Even with the majority, that's 4 entirely different setups.

And labor setup time is simply expensive.

Assuming I were to persue this, I'd only get quotes on standard sizes.
16x8 and 17x8.

Anyone who wanted their own special offset, etc, could buy the centers,
then contact the aluminum hoop mfg for their special hoop, then find a welder
to assembly them, get them painted, etc.

At that point, one would be better off buying Centerline's.

[williamb82]

honestly, 16x8 and 16x9 staggered is a waste of time. widest tire you will find for 16 is 255. for a 9in wide rim id want a 275, thats why id say 17x8 17x9 is the best option

also, centerlines wouldnt look nearly as cool as 17in ptype wheels

[KCheng]

yeah after not finding much wider tires i'd say i would go for 16x8
can we change our vote?=P

[rsdeo]

honestly, 16x8 and 16x9 staggered is a waste of time. widest tire you will find for 16 is 255. for a 9in wide rim id want a 275, thats why id say 17x8 17x9 is the best option

also, centerlines wouldnt look nearly as cool as 17in ptype wheels


I would see no problem with 16x8 and 16x9 staggered. 225/50-16 and 255/45/16 is a really good setup for a racer and street car.

Tyre selection in 17" isn't the greatest either, unless you live in Europe. 18" is the best choice really. Big, but lot's of tyre sizes to choose from and room for even bigger brakes.

[TRD 83 SUPRA XX]

Well I casted my vote.

[lechner]

I would see no problem with 16x8 and 16x9 staggered. 225/50-16 and 255/45/16 is a really good setup for a racer and street car.But won't those sizes fit on 16x8's all around? I think that is his point. 90% of the people that would get 16x9 rears would put rubber that could have gone on 16x8's on them. So there is little point in staggered 16" wheels due to tire selection?

P.S. -Is there no way to change a vote?

[CanuckDave]

after reading and thinking about this, if I could change my vote I'd be putting down 17x8 front 17x9 rear. I find some 17s look too big on a mkII, but its the only way I can get the tire setup I want, most likely 245s front and 265 or 275 rears.

[TRD 83 SUPRA XX]

Hey what kinda wheels are we talking about here anyway?

[Chrisfrom1986]

how about you go back and read the first post.

[Supra Bob]

I'm not voting here, because I am completely not in the market for wheels... but I do want to point a couple of things out.

My Colorado comes factory with 17X8 rims, 235/50 rubbers on them. I do not have ANY tramming (following of cracks or groves in the road) with this setup. Tire selection is VERY good in this size, and there are several other sizes that fit on these rims, and at a VERY reasonable price...many cases less than the tires that are available for the stock mk II rims.

[Jose H. 3]

As requested by george himself (karaki) :) I've done another chop of what seems to be both our dream wheels... So I did a profile shot of his car... I think it turned out pretty well... Enjoy :woot:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a33/mkii85supra/profilechopcopy.jpg

17x8, 17x9 staggered OEM...

[rsdeo]

As requested by george himself (karaki) :) I've done another chop of what seems to be both our dream wheels... So I did a profile shot of his car... I think it turned out pretty well... Enjoy :woot:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a33/mkii85supra/profilechopcopy.jpg

17x8, 17x9 staggered OEM...

I hope George has a change of pants.

[Jose H. 3]

lol

[RaptorRacing]

That is hotter than hot :woot: ....ok...one more...do a photoshop with the most recent one in gun metal like you did the other one with my car (the angle shot)...very very nice.

[Jose H. 3]

i'll start workin on it... I've just gotta try to get a pic of my OEM wheels in the same angle...

**EDIT: I'm an ass hat and totally read your post wrong (george)... I'm pretty sure you just wanted the last chop I did with gun metal centers... if so... here ya go... Enjoy buddy, and I'm glad im not the only one that likes the gun metal centers too :D **

--I left the center caps and lugs stock color, just made the face gun metal... just let me know if you wanna see them darker, lighter, almost black... whatever...--

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a33/mkii85supra/profilechopgunmetalcopy.jpg

[Jose H. 3]

Gold centers for anyone that wants a touch of bling... I dig it :woot:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a33/mkii85supra/profilechopgoldcopy.jpg

**hey, its old school bling, and I like it!**

[RaptorRacing]

OMFG...not that I'm biased cause it's my car...BUT I'M IN LOVE!!!!!

[Jose H. 3]

your telling me... these have been my dream ever since i got the car(s)... and my project car is black to boot

** man, im glad I installed photoshop at work... ha suckers (my work)...

[Supra GTR]

That's nice.. very nice..

Out of curiousity, can you make the center black?

Regards,
James R

[Jose H. 3]

well, almost black... any darker and details would just blend away... at least to my photochopping skills...

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a33/mkii85supra/profilechopalmostblack.jpg

-Ha, looks almost like george just jammed an OEM center cap onto his braids...

[jdk_ii]

:badger:

If they are proportional 17's, I like the darker center.

Clear centers make the wheel look too bit for the genre.
Then again, we've all been used to the 14's style for so long..

[Jose H. 3]

yeah jim, they are proportioned at 17"... i just replaced the centers on georges wheels (stretched the centers so the lugs and center cap are really close to what they should be), so the outer hoops are still the 17" Braid hoops... So far, I like all the colors but would most likely go for the gun metal centers with the polished/chrome lip...

[jdk_ii]

Cool.

I'd have to measure the MK2 center thickness (not diameter) and see if I can get center slugs that size.

Or maybe we can convince Braid... :D

[CanuckDave]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a33/mkii85supra/profilechopalmostblack.jpg



wow, thats just gorgeous, if some were produced I'd be all over them.. along with the rest of this place no doubt.

[TRD 83 SUPRA XX]

Biger Lip!!!

[RaptorRacing]

That's a 4" lip on the back buddy...how much bigger do you need!!!!!

[TRD 83 SUPRA XX]

is it??? I cant really tell

[Chrisfrom1986]

man if you could get some 16 inch centers made for a 3 piece rim... damn, i think id rather starve for 3 months than not get those.

[Jose H. 3]

By, request, i photo chopped a set of oversized OEM wheels onto daves car, keeping the center line hoops. If i remember correctly, 16x8 up front and 17x9.5 out back (i know others liked this set up too and wanted to see OEM like it)... the lip looks hott :drooling: . enjoy again everyone.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a33/mkii85supra/DavesPhotoChop.jpg

color / hue whatever isn't perfect, but you get the idea....

[rsdeo]

Looks hot, but in reality the lip would be smaller if the center is concave.

[Jose H. 3]

Looks hot, but in reality the lip would be smaller if the center is concave.

yeah i already thought about that, which kinda sucks, but oh well :rolleyes: . i would rather give up some lip and still have the face concaved then having a straight face. would look more like the 15x7 oem wheels...

[batmobile]

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