LJM Front Strut bar group buy

[MkIISuperSupra]

I'm setting up a poll at the request of several, to verify the interest in another group buy.

If you are new and don't know what the bars look like, PM me or send me an email and I will send you pictures.

Bars are fabricated by an independent race car fabricator and are are made of 3/4" steel tubing welded to 1/4" steel plate for mounting across all 3 strut mounts. Bars are adjustable Horz. and Vert. through the inclusion of a Hyme joint on the Driver's side. Bars are available in a wide range of color choices as long as you pick powder coated black. :roll: (black really is the only color available)

This bar will fit any MKII Supra with a 5mge, 5mgte, 6mge, 6mgte, 7mge or 7mgte. QUALIFIER: depending upon the 5 or 6 mgte set up I suppose there could be issues but I am not aware of anyone having any issues. Mine actually clears my 7mgte better than it does the 5mge. Bars will fit with a Rabid Chimp intake pipe (AG graciously modified his design to make them fit together ):lol:

We must have a minimum of 10 prepaid orders in order to start fabrication so for the sake of others, please don't respond positively to the poll unless you are ready to send payment in the near future. Sorry guys but it isn't fair to make others wait 6 months while payments come in. :oops:

Bars are $160.00 USD shipped to your door in the USA. Shipping outside the USA is extra. Shipping runs about 25.00 to Canada slightly more the further away you are. Shipping outside the USA, the best idea is to try to find others who want a bar and have them shipped in 1 box to a single address, this will significantly cut individual shipping costs. In the past, some of our Canadian friends had them shipped to someone in the USA and had them driven across the border. Again, greatly cuts down on shipping costs.

Payment can be made via Paypal, personal check or money order. Sorry, not set up to accept credit cards. :cry:

I appologize for this post being so long but I'm trying to answer everyone's questions before you ask them.

Leslie

[wallcrawlr]

Bars will fit with a Rabid Chimp intake pipe (AG graciously modified his design to make them fit together )

You did a good job explaining away some questions. Sorry I still have one.

Modified when?

I purchased an intake about a year ago. Would that be a before/after modified pipe to fit the LJM bar?

[MkIISuperSupra]

Aaron wil probably have to give the absolute definitive answer here but I believe He modified his intake pipe before any were sold. I do know He modified the bar in Oct. or Nov. of 2001 so if you bought it after that there should be no problem.

HTH
Leslie

[CJSREDPRA]

Wallcrawlr,

In the fall of 2001, I brought the prototype AG intake pipe w/ me to the Vegas meet, so that I could test out the pipe on the dyno (to see how well the pipe worked @ 2,200 ft above sea level vs right at sea level during the initial testing), and to see how well the LMJ bar would fit in conjunction w/ the AG pipe. Yes, there were some fitment issues, where the bar was rubbing on the 2 vacuum hoses that come out of the 2 vacuum nipples on the intake pipe (and I took pictures of this problem, during the test fit while we were in the Luxor Garage).

If I remember this correctly, Aaron Garney only made possibly 1 - 3 intake pipes after the prototype pipe, then after that, he stopped production briefly, so that the vacuum hose nipples could be relocated, so that the hoses would clear the LJM bar. Intake production resumed around the end of October - beginning of November of 2001 & the vacuum hoses no longer have any rubbing issues w/ the LJM bar.

If you ordered yours in early 2002, then you have the redesigned intake pipe that will easily clear the LJM bar.

So yes, once again, I was the test vehicle for both of these lovely items. Heck, who's to turn down FREE DYNO TIME for testing out the intake pipe???? :D :shock: 8) Certainly not I...... :lol:

[wallcrawlr]

Thanks dudes.

[86SupraMKII]

I'll take one

So it looks like this.......?

http://www.speedtoys.com/%7Emoon/1986/imagepages/engine.html

[white_mk_2]

Would it be at all possible to get a "naked" steel bar?

Thanks,

[MkIISuperSupra]

I'll take one

So it looks like this.......?

http://www.speedtoys.com/%7Emoon/1986/imagepages/engine.html

Yes, that is it.

Leslie

[MkIISuperSupra]

Would it be at all possible to get a "naked" steel bar?

Thanks,

Oh, I don't even want to get into this.....

Pink and Purple polkadots are POSSIBLE. :Fade-color However, first the group buy would have to exceed 10 prepaid orders and second, it will cost you more not less. Sorry :cry:

Leslie

[86SupraMKII]

Do you know about when / what day you'll need the $$$?

I'm sure you'll have to wait till you get enough orders...

[84MKII]

im interested and pretty sure ill have the money, and im sure its worth every penny :D

[MkIISuperSupra]

Do you know about when / what day you'll need the $$$?

...

First things first. First, I have to meet with someone tomorrow to find out if we can even get the fabricator to make up another batch and what His timing would be. Very long story. Let's just say that a lot of it depends on his work load....

Then we can worry about timing. The cut off date isn't nearly as important to me as it is to the buyers.....so you all decide. I already have bars on both of my cars :BIG: and no amount of money is going to get either of them off my cars.....

But seriously, it just depends on you all and how quickly you want to get them on your cars.

I'll post tomorrow after my meeting if it looks like a GO in the near future.

Leslie

[ma61_turbo]

Leslie,

Do you have any idea on perhaps a ballpark figure to get one of these to Australia? No need to be in AUD. Although I'm sure I could get something over here, I don't know of anywhere that would be able to custom make me one to fit the 7m conversion.

[MkIISuperSupra]

Leslie,

Do you have any idea on perhaps a ballpark figure to get one of these to Australia? .

If you let me know what your postal code is I can check. I'll also talk to the traffic manager at work and see if He has any ideas about the cheapest rates. Of course a round trip ticket and I'll hand deliver it :D

Leslie

[ma61_turbo]

If you let me know what your postal code is I can check. I'll also talk to the traffic manager at work and see if He has any ideas about the cheapest rates. Of course a round trip ticket and I'll hand deliver it :D







Leslie





Round trip? LOL, if I could afford that I'd be using it myself to go to the Vegas meet!





Postcode is 5127. I would guess that cheapest would be surface shipping, that wouldn't paricularly bother me if the whole thing is affordable.





Cheers :D

[MkIISuperSupra]

Dave,

Had to try for that ticket :lol: I love Australia!

USPS ground would be 4-6 weeks for delivery and 28.10 USD

USPS global express 3-5 days for delivery and 57.00 USD

UPS or FED-X and we start at 128.00 USD so they are out of the question.

USPS ground is almost the same as to Canada, really not bad, just way slow.

Leslie

[ma61_turbo]

Leslie,





Thanks for that. The USPS via ground, that would be insured?





What would be the cutoff date for registering interest. I'm gonna have to check the finances, I think :wink:

[MkIISuperSupra]

Thanks for that. The USPS via ground, that would be insured?





:

Dave,

No, actually that is without insurance. I can easily insure it but you will then be stuck paying duties on your end and may be a bit surprised how steep they will be.....

Waiting on feedback from others on setting a close date.

Leslie

[ma61_turbo]

Hmm, I wonder what the duties would be? Might have to do some investigating. Don't particularly want to risk spending over 300AUD and have it "lost" on the way... :mad:

I'll keep watch for a close date

Dave

[86SupraMKII]

Leslie,

Are the strut bars being made??? I'd be willing to get one in 2 weeks if they're being produced.......

Just let me know.

What method of payment works for ya?

Neal
RedHotSupra@hotmail.com

[MkIISuperSupra]

Neal,

Are the bars being made right now? NO. We won't order and schedule the bars until the group buy ends and we have at least a minimum of 10 pre-paid orders. We have to purchase them with a minimum quantity of 10 bars. If we have at least 10 when the group buys ends, we will order the bars, schedule their production and get them shipped as quickly as possible.

Since no one else has made any suggestions, I would suggest that we close the group buy on April 30. That gives everyone 4 weeks to get their payments in and reserve a bar. If we have less than 10 prepaid orders at that point, we will of course return eveyones money.

As previously posted, payments can be made through paypal (please add 5.00 to cover fees) or by personal check or moneyorder.

Hope this helps. The fastest way to get bars fabricated and shipped is to get payment sent in.

HTH
Leslie

[1Smooth85]

Leslie I only have one question and that is where do I send the money?

[Supra Bob]

Heh... and you know I am in... sending ya the money right now :)

[MkIISuperSupra]

Leslie I only have one question and that is where do I send the money?

You can send cash or money order for 160.00 to:

Leslie M. Grover
5508 Calle Quieta NW
Albuquerque, New Mexico
87120-2308

or 165.00 thru Paypal to:

MKIISuperSupra@aol.com

Leslie

[ziggens]

Will this work on a cressida? (1988 mx73)

[MkIISuperSupra]

Will this work on a cressida? (1988 mx73)

I have no idea. I don't have access to a cressida to try a test fit. It will NOT fit a similar year Celica due to slightly different alignment of the strut bolts.

Leslie

[zank]

Leslie
How much more would it cost to have them a certain color? and what colors would be available? :rainbow1: :rainbowafro: :smilecol: :Fade-color :multi: (i didnt know which smily to use there are so many :D )


Ziggens
(your sig) I thought that "Z" was for zankone :P :wink:

[SDRmk2]

Zank was telling me about this group buy and i am interested in one for sure.

[Supra Bob]

You guys DO know, the sooner we all get Leslie the money for these, the sooner we get the bars? Production will not start until he has the money for at least 10 of these in his hands... :coughcoughHINTcoughcough:


Zank... to quote Henry Ford, "You can have it any color you want, so long as it's black."

[zank]

Zank... to quote Henry Ford, "You can have it any color you want, so long as it's black."

Black :shock: thats my Fav color :D

[MkIISuperSupra]

With this format I'm not sure where the best/most appropriate place to post this is so I'll start here and if anyone has other suggestions, let me know.

As of 4-10-03 I have recieved payments from the following:

Bob Kaucher 1 bar 03988425144039
Andrew Wilmut 1 bar will ship 6-3

As of 4-13-03 I have received the following additional payments:

Shawn Pease 1 bar 039884251441797
Chris Clement 1 bar 039884251442054
Robert Sawvel 1 bar 0039884251441797

As of 4-14-03 I have received the following additional payments:

Omar Elizalde 1 bar 039884251441933
Rolo Elizalde 1 bar 039884251441933 shipped together

As of 4-18-03 I have received the following additional payments:

Alfonso Gonzalez 1 bar 039884251442602
Nicholas Reiser 1 bar
Brian Wenham 1 bar 039884251442718

On my fingers that totals 10.....OFFICIALLY so this buy is on and still open.

As of 4-22-03 I have received the following addional payments

Michael Ashcraft 1 bar 039884251442817

10 + 1 = 11 in my book :lol:

As of 4-28-03 I have received the following additional payments

Joseph Shantz 1 bar 039884251441995
Steven Voiss 1 bar 039884251442664
Gera Grabovich 1 bar 039884251442855
Jason Knopke 1 bar 039884251442923

15 total so far and more on the way.......

As of 4-29-03 I have received the following additional payments

Justin Hiegel 1 bar 039884251442459
Kiet Huynh 1 bar 039884251442503

As of 4-30-03 I have received the following additional payments

Roger C. Smith 1 bar 039884251442558
Gregory Wellnitz 1 bar 039884251442305
Justin Ahlstrand 1 bar 069884251442367

By my count 20 are paid and hopefully a couple of checks are still on the way as well.

As of 5-3-03 I have received the following additional payments

Peter Whitehouse 1 bar 039884251442091
Kurt J. Reber 1 bar 039884251442411
Mike Defonce 1 bar yours will ship this week, my screw up, sorry
Wade Tobin 1 bar

As of 5-28-03 I have received the following additional payments:

Mike Rapp 1 bar 039884251442206
David Seltzer 1 bar 039884251442220
Edwin M. Suarez 1 bar 039884251442947


There is one bar left available out of this order if anyone wants it.

There is also going to be 1 original style bar available as soon as Mike Defonce gets his new style due to issues with his incredible turbo set up. If someone has and 84 thru 86 and wants a deal.......let me know.

Once again Thanks to everyone

Leslie

[Supra Bob]

Damn right!!!


Umm.... I mean...


Anxious? me? Never...

:wink:

[zank]

<--Anxiously waiting to get on the list :P

i wonder how long its gonna take the snail mail to deliver my payment?

[MkIISuperSupra]

I have edited the list of payments received. Unfortunately, an edit to a previous post does not show up as a new post. So....you will just have to keep checking the original post (it is on page 3 of this topic) and the current list of payments received in order to see your name on the list.

I just added, Shawn Pease and Chris Clement and Robert Sawvel

Leslie

[SDRmk2]

Im just gonna quote Supra Bob, "Damn right!!!." lol :D
Good to know my check has arrived. Come on people pay pay pay :D :D :D
Supra Bob, "Anxious? me? Never..." <---- like he said. :lol:

[MkIISuperSupra]

Just updated my 4-10 post, see above on this same page with the latest payments I have received.

As of this morning, I have 9 prepaid orders. Thanks everyone.

Leslie

[82Ltype]

I'm going to paypal the money after I get a response. I'm a new forum member and have an 1982 L type with the 5m-ge. I'd like to know whether these strut bars are really useful. Does it significantly improve body roll or what? And how much are comparative bars(if they are even availible for such an old model)?
Thanx, Brian

[MkIISuperSupra]

Brian,

I could answer all your questions but I'd rather have others speak up on this one. I don't think I'd be considered impartial.

There are 100 foks running around with LJM Strut bars (some with 2) so there should be plenty of feedback available for you.

Leslie

[82Ltype]

Oh what the hell... I'll get it. Seems like a good deal. paypal money is on the way :D Brian

[MkIISuperSupra]

Oh what the hell... I'll get it. Seems like a good deal. paypal money is on the way :D Brian

Then you will get to be number 10 that will lock this group buy in. I will keep the group buy open until the 30th to allow others a little more time.

I don't think you will be disappointed.

Leslie

[Supra Bob]

<--comes out of his corner long enough to do the snoopy-happy dance, and then returns.

[MkIISuperSupra]

Ok Bob, NOW you can do your "Snoopy happy dance"

Brian Wenham just put the GB over the top. His payment was the magic #10.

Leslie

[Supra Bob]

<--comes out of his corner long enough to do the snoopy-happy dance, and then returns.

:multi:

[ma61_turbo]

Leslie,

With the number of people that have indicated via the poll that they want bars, would you expect to do another run down the track if not all of them buy bars this time? I'm not going to be able to get money to you by the end of the month to join the buy. If I miss out, I miss out, but here's hoping ...

[zank]

<--comes out of his corner long enough to do the snoopy-happy dance, and then returns.

:multi:

I guess ill start dancing too :D :multi:

[SDRmk2]

Guess who is the happy owner of a brand new LJM Strut Bar. Yes people thats me. lol :D
I gueeesss itil look good here what yall think. I know I know its dirty i got to clean it.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/pc06ada210d3213ec4a5df15cae87534e/fc7cd21f.jpg

[Tommy]

I'm going to paypal the money after I get a response. I'm a new forum member and have an 1982 L type with the 5m-ge. I'd like to know whether these strut bars are really useful. Does it significantly improve body roll or what? And how much are comparative bars(if they are even availible for such an old model)?
Thanx, Brian

Brian,
I spent $2800 on my 84. Since then I have more than doubled that on mods (including a Toysport 6M/install).
The LJM strutbar (as well as the rear shock brace) made a bigger difference in the car's behavior than anything else except the 6M. In terms of "bang for your buck" its a screamin' deal.
Considering its about the same price as a good set of strut cartridges, no suspension mods should proceed without one IMHO, as it will make everything else you do work better. And increase your handling predictability without further mods.
Body flex sucks when its time to plant the tires for the next hairpin.
Jamie

[SDRmk2]

Leslie (AKA: MkIISuperSupra)
I dont intend to sound like an ass or in any way mean to sound demanding but i have a question. By when should we be expecting our prescious cargo. :D

[MkIISuperSupra]

Leslie (AKA: MkIISuperSupra)
I dont intend to sound like an ass or in any way mean to sound demanding but i have a question. By when should we be expecting our prescious cargo. :D

And I truely do not mean to sound like a SMART ass but I honestly do not have an answer for you. I will order the bars as soon as the group buy closes on the 30th. Once I order them I will have a better idea of when they will ship for sure. Remember each bar is hand made and they are not sitting on a shelf someplace...If I were to guess, I would say somewhere between mid to end of May depending somewhat on the total number of orders.

As soon as I get an estimate, I will certainly let everyone know.

And no I don't think you sound like an ass or demanding.....Of course everyone has the same questions and want to get their bars as quickly as possible... :D

Leslie<<<who is in the garage changing oil, tranny fluid and rear end fluid in both cars...... :roll:

[MkIISuperSupra]

The list on page 3 has been updated

11 of 21 who posted in the poll. Time is running out. If you are still planning to get in on this group buy, payment needs to be here by April 30th.

Leslie

[TMBJason]

Leslie,

After I get out of my 1:00 class, I'll be dropping my payment in the mail.
Looking foward to having one of those bars on my Supra!

Jason

[trdmkii]

hey leslie i get paid friday and will send the money through paypal.

[wallcrawlr]

If it wasnt for the last minute nothing would get done.

Will prob pay via paypal this weekend or Mon, Tues.

Thanks for being patient with the buy.

[supra_toy]

On a side note the LJM bar, according to my mechanic, may very well have saved my legs in my role over crash. The engine bay saged over 2" when we removed it from the wrecked car.

Worth every penny

will

[Supra Bob]

Not that most of us don;t know what these look like... but just in case...

Pics of LJM Bars (http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/mk2/lst?.dir=/LJM+Front+Strut+Bar&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/mk2/lst%3f%26.dir=/%26.src=gr%26.view=t/)

[wallcrawlr]

SENT!!

[85_6mge]

Leslie,

Check's coming via Express mail. Guess if I checked the site more often I'd know what's going on!

[kreber]

Hi,
Greyfalcon and I are definitely interested in this deal. Only thing is, the check won't go out until 29th. Is there ANY sort of grace period on this? I'm sure checks will arrive by end of week to New Mexico. I will check back here almost HOURLY to get the response....

Kurt

[MkIISuperSupra]

Hi,
Greyfalcon and I are definitely interested in this deal. Only thing is, the check won't go out until 29th. Is there ANY sort of grace period on this? I'm sure checks will arrive by end of week to New Mexico. I will check back here almost HOURLY to get the response....

Kurt

Kurt,

Sent an email to both of your email addresses. If you don't get them, email me directly: MKIISuperSupra@aol.com

Leslie

[MkIISuperSupra]

15 payments received. Post on page 3 is updated with everyones names.

Leslie

[kreber]

You should be able to add me on by the end of the week. Check is on the (snailmail) way to you :)

Kurt

[MkIISuperSupra]

You should be able to add me on by the end of the week. Check is on the (snailmail) way to you :)

Kurt

Kurt,

Got you covered.

Leslie

[MkIISuperSupra]

The list on page 3 of this topic has been updated as of 4-30-03.

19 paid orders by my count.

If you have a check in the mail and your name isn't on the list please send me an email or a PM so I can firm up the quantity and get these little puppies on order.

Thanks Everyone, bars should ship no later than the end of May and probably more likely by the middle of may. We will ship as bars are completed and will them in the order payment was received.

Leslie

[MikeD]

Hey Leslie, Sorry to bother ya but are you going to have one bar made for me too? I just wanted to double check that's all. Just give me a holler when and where you want me to send the earlier version of the bar. Thanks...

[MkIISuperSupra]

Hey Leslie, Sorry to bother ya but are you going to have one bar made for me too? I just wanted to double check that's all. Just give me a holler when and where you want me to send the earlier version of the bar. Thanks...

Mike,

I have you covered. Your bar has already been added in to the count for the fabricator. When you get the new one, you can just ship the old bar back to me and I'll have a great paperweight. :roll:

Leslie

[MikeD]

Leslie,

Thanks!

BTW, aren't there any offers for a never used black LJM 1st version bar? If anyone want to buy it now instead of waiting, let me and Leslie know. Come on guys you gotta give Leslie a fair break not having to use this bar as paper weight!

The only reason I never used it is 'cause I have custom IC piping that would interfere with this bar's heim ball joint on the passenger side (on 1st version).

MikeD

[TOYMAN321]

Im in... let me know what I need to do to get on board with this one!
kgunning81@hotmail.com

[MkIISuperSupra]

Im in... let me know what I need to do to get on board with this one!
kgunning81@hotmail.com

Actually, the group buy closed yesterday and I ordered the bars today. However, I did end up ordering a couple extra. If you really want in I would suggest that you pay via paypal 165.00 or express mail 160.00 immediately. These bars will strictly go on a first come basis and once these couple of bars are gone, it will take another group buy minimum of 10.

Leslie

[kreber]

MKIISuperSupra,
Have you received my check yet? Kurt Reber in Lovettsville, VA

Thanks!
Kurt

[MkIISuperSupra]

I have updated the running list on page three of this topic. If anyone has sent in payment, and doesn't see their name on the list, please let me know so I can accomodate. I did order a few extras so if anyone missed out, there may still be time.

The Bars are in work and should be finished sometime between the middle of May and the end of May. Right now the long pole for delivery is the powdercoaters. They are running a 10 day backlog and that may slow things down just a bit.

Thanks to everyone for a very successful group buy.

Leslie

[wallcrawlr]

Thanks to everyone for a very successful group buy.

Leslie

Thanks for the great communication.

[SDRmk2]

21 people voted yes on the poll but 24 poeple ordered there is something fishy about these results :D
I guess there was more that 100% turn out.
sorry guys im just trolling cant wait 4 my goodies. I will just crawl back to my hole.
:snipersm: :drinking:
:2gunfire: :mrgreen:

[Junkie]

I was one of the non voters :drinking:

[MkIISuperSupra]

Everyone, I am on my way to Oregon in about 10 minutes so I won't be on line for awhile.

Just wanted to let everyone know, that the strut bars are in work and are getting close. If they are completed while I am gone, Jay Balducci will start shipping them out. He has everyones addresses.

Even though I won't be around, the bars will continue to progress.

Leslie

[Usagisama 83']

Um...you said you got a couple extra bars? Do you have any left? I am somewhat new to celicasupra.com and totaly missed this whole group buy till just now. I should have money in a week, is it to late to get one of these extra bars? Please tell me, thanks!

[TOYMAN321]

Extra bars? Let me know, Im interested:
kgunning81@hotmail.com

[MkIISuperSupra]

Just a quickie update.

Bars are completed and at the powder coaters. Should be finished this week. Will let everyone know as soon as they are delivered and ready to start shipping.

I'm still playing catch up and need to get the list updated. I will get that done as quickly as possible so eveyone knows that payments have been received.

Leslie

[TMBJason]

Excellent! :D

[zank]

So whats the word on the bars :?:

[MkIISuperSupra]

Sorry don't know. I didn't get a chance today to call and check on them. I'll be sure and check on their progress tomorrow. They should be just about ready.

Leslie

[MkIISuperSupra]

Fabrication wise the strut bars have been finished for 2 weeks. They have been in Queue at the powder coaters since then. :cry: I did call and confirm that they were scheduled to be powder coated today and ready for pick up tomorrow. :bday: Hopefully they will be. Once a day is given, the powder coater is pretty reliable.

Hopefully, no matter what they will be ready to start shipping this weekend. No offense but CRAP! that means I have to get all the lists updated tonight. Shipping depends on Jay B's schedule. If necessary, I will drive over to Phoenix (500 mile drive) this weekend and help out. It may not seem like much but trust me, boxing and labeling 30 of these puppies is quite a chore.

I will check tomorrow and verify that they are finished and ready to go.

Thanks to everyone for being patient. The wait is almost over and I can assure you the hardest point is waiting for them to arrive once you know they have shipped.

Leslie :lol:

[wallcrawlr]

It may not seem like much but trust me, boxing and labeling 30 of these puppies is quite a chore.

It sounds like work to me. Thanks though.

Looking forward to it soon.

[MkIISuperSupra]

I have updated the list of people who are about to have bars shipped on page 3 of this thread. This is everyone that I have received payment from as of 5-28-03. There were others who had expressed an interest but I have not received payment if anyone has sent a payment and it isn't reflected in the list please let me know.

Once these bars are shipped there will be one old style bar that I will make someone a good deal on if you have an 84-86 MKII. 82 and 83 cars have what I consider to be a rub issue with this bar (that is why we changed the design) And....there will be 1 new style bar available to the first payment received if anyone is still interested.

Leslie

[MkIISuperSupra]

bars are done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will start shipping this weekend.

Leslie

[zank]

bars are done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will start shipping this weekend.

Leslie

WOO HOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! :BIG: :multi:

[Andrew]

:eggface: WERD... GJ Leslie..



*First to use the eggface*

[MkIISuperSupra]

OK, Jay picked the bars up today and is packaging them right now.

We are going to ship this set of bars out Fed-X ground, (way faster than USPS and UPS).

We are thinking of shipping them with Signature required.

Need to know if this is too big of a PITA for eveyone.......After 3 attempts to deliver, bar gets shipped back to Jay.........You don't want that and neither do we since the cost to reship would be a bank buster. With signature service, Fed-X won't deliver unless there is someone there to sign for it, which at least eliminates the danger of someone walking off with a bar from the front door....

Need an answer tonight so if you see this and had any thoughts, please let us know.

Thanks and bars will be on their way SOON :D

Leslie

[Supra Bob]

Leslie, for mine, please don't use the sig required... The address I gave ya, no one is even remotely likely to walk off with it, and I can garentee ya no one will be there to sign, unless they deliver it on a saturday.

[zank]

Its all good :wink: as long as they get here Im Happy :P

[SDRmk2]

SOme one give me a HELL YEAH!
thats cool cuz i just finished fixing my BHG. :D :D :D

[82Ltype]

I don't need the signature required mailing, I'll either be home or it can sit outside for a few hours without any trouble. Brian

[wallcrawlr]

Sig not necessary here either.

[GreyFalcon]

Please DO NOT require a signature for mine! I live in the country, and no one will be here when it is delivered. The same would apply to Kurt Reber.

[kreber]

Hi,
I would like to confirm that because I live in the country I would prefer a signature not be required upon delivery of the LJM strut bar. Thanks!

Kurt Reber

[Suprajayaz]

OK, Jay picked the bars up today and is packaging them right now.

Thanks and bars will be on their way SOON :D

Leslie

Everyone - all the bars (except 1 to Canada - Andrew - will ship yours in the morning since Fed Ex would not allow me to ship to you this morning) -were shipped via Fed Ex ground. You all should have them very soon and hope everyone enjoys them! Jay B.. in *hot* AZ!

[MkIISuperSupra]

Everyone - all the bars (except 1 to Canada - Andrew - will ship yours in the morning since Fed Ex would not allow me to ship to you this morning) -were shipped via Fed Ex ground. You all should have them very soon and hope everyone enjoys them! Jay B.. in *hot* AZ!

I have added each persons Fed-X tracking number by their name on the list on page 3.

Mike D, my screw up, I forgot to ship your bar. Will do so on Wednesday.

They are on the way folks.

Leslie

[Andrew]

Thanks Jay/Leslie

[wallcrawlr]

http://www.fedex.com/us/tracking/?link=1&ascend_header=1


Track it here.

[85_6mge]

Leslie,

Damn!! I didn't see the notice regarding Signing for bar. Hope you didn't send with Sig. required as I live way out in the country and don't have a problem with theft, also there won't be anyone there to sign.

Greg W

[Suprajayaz]

Andrew in Canada - your bar was shipped by USPS this morning and you should receive it in 5-10 days (air mail).

ALL: We did not opt for the 'signature required' per most everyone's request. Fed Ex does not have that UPS sticker option that allows you to sign the sticker and they drop off the shipment - you must make an appointment - good for some things, but decided this was not advantageous for all those not at the shipping location.

Enjoy!

[Andrew]

Could I have a tracking number please??

Thanks

[Suprajayaz]

Could I have a tracking number please??
Thanks

That's the bummer with USPS - I don't recall them having the ability to track international shipments. The last few times we shipped internationally, we could not obtain tracking #'s.... sorry. Next time, I'm setting up a Fed Ex account and will have ability to ship internationally with all the perks...

[zank]

WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!! I got my bars today (this morning) :BIG: They are great :wink: Ill post pics later

Thanks Leslie

Laterz, zankone

[Suprajayaz]

I think the bar is pretty intuitive to install, however, you will notice that there are several thickness washers in the parts bag. These are inserted above and below the hardware that the bolt goes through and are used to adjust the height of the bar above the intake plenum. Enjoy!

[SDRmk2]

WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!! I got my bars today (this morning) :BIG: They are great :wink: Ill post pics later

Thanks Leslie

Laterz, zankone

U prick one of them is mine. :twisted:

[Junkie]

Mine is here now. 8) very sweet,actualy to nice to install,until I clean some more :roll:

[wallcrawlr]

Anticipation is killing me...



Jun 6, 2003 10:12 am

On FedEx vehicle for delivery

ST. PAUL - HD, MN

[82Ltype]

Jun 6, 2003 8:39 am On FedEx vehicle for delivery ALEXANDRIA - HD, VA

Yeah me too! Can't wait! I'm out cleaning the engine in anticipation!(Right in front of my apt so I don't miss the Fedex truck!)Brian
It should be here SOON!

[GreyFalcon]

What a difference! all the little things I didn't like about the steering went away, especially it's habit of wanting to require a little bit too much pressure to get it to come off a straight line for slight corrections (had to fight a tendency to overcorrect). It also liked to wander a little if I didn't pay strict attention to straight line driving (I thought it was me). Now it is just right. One question, should the weight be taken off the tires when it is fitted, or should it be fitted on the ground as I did it? It's been raining here, so I haven't had a chance to flatten out and straighten the road over Mt. Weather, but I already love the way the strut bar makes it handle. :D :D :D GOOD JOB! Thanks.

[MkIISuperSupra]

I'm not sure which way is the best to do the install. Someone mentioned a group buy or so ago tha they had "pre-loaded" the bar by jacking the front up a little then insalling the bar. I put both of mine on with the wheels on the ground. Someone who understands the suspension system a lot better than I will have to speak up and talk about the pros and cons.

Glad you are enjoying your bar. It is amazing how it changes the handling!

Leslie

[trdmkii]

I haven't tried installing mine yet, i'm not quite sure how to get it all together, i recieved mine in the mail yesterday, and i'm sure i'm just retarded but i'll figure it out, i need to actually walk out and put it on.

[Speed Racer]

Geez,

By the time everyone gets their strut bars installed, there will be more Mk2s in our group WITH them vs. those that don't. I have to admit, it's a nice addition to the car. Not only does the bar work really REALLY well, it looks cool installed too.

Car behaves much better in a corner - has a nice solid feel, and I like how tractable it is now. Toyota should have put them on the Supra OEM.

[GreyFalcon]

trdmkii, go here for pictures: http://www.celicasupra.com/ljmbar.htm the last page of pictures shows the order for the washers. As near as I can tell, the three silver washers of the same thickness go under the ball, the brass colored washer of the same thickness, on top. I used the thin washer on the bottom with the nylon insert locking nut, after dropping the bolt through.

[MkIISuperSupra]

hehehehe

Now that everyone has them installed. Here are the installation instructions that Mike and Jay wrote.

Leslie


LJM Strut Bar for the MK2 Toyota Supra


Thank you for purchasing the LJM front strut stabilizing bar. Installation is straight forward and can be done by following the steps below:

Tools Needed:
14mm socket and ratchet
15/16” socket and ratchet
15/16” box/open end wrench or 8” or 10” crescent wrench

Remove all items from box and packing materials from bar.
Thread the silver “eyelet” with lock nut (this is the “adjuster”) into the bar. Leave about 1¼ -inches of the threads visible.
NOTE: The “adjuster” will be on the DRIVER’S side of the engine compartment when completed.

Remove the 6 upper strut mounting plate nuts (3 each side) with a 14mm socket.
Install the bar onto the PASSENGER side mount studs (it will only fit one way - bar runs over engine). DO NOT thread nuts onto studs yet.
Place the opposite strut bar plate so that the eyelet of the “adjuster” slides in between the tabs of the opposite strut bar plate and then lower the plate onto DRIVER’s side mount studs.
Note the location of the hole in the tabs relative to the eye of the “adjuster.” If necessary, remove the plate and thread the “adjuster” in or out to line up the “adjuster” eyelet hole with the holes in the plate tabs so the bolt can fit through it.
NOTE: The bolt and side plates are drilled to EXACT fit, so align holes as close as possible. Do not expect to be able to put much (if any) preload on the bar. The “adjuster” is for fitment, not preload.

Place the plate back onto the 3 studs. DO NOT install the bolt through the eyelet yet.
Once all is lined up, install all 6 nuts onto the studs finger tight.
It may be necessary to adjust the vertical height of the bar for bar to engine/hood clearance. This is done by inserting washers (provided) above or below the eyelet between the tabs. Typically, 2 on the bottom side and 1 goes on top of the adjuster for proper clearance between the bar, intake plenum, and hood blanket. Use your judgement.
Ensure that as many washers as possible are used between the tabs to prevent any bending of the tabs during tightening of the securing bolt.
Insert the stainless steel securing bolt through the top tab, washers, adjuster eyelet, washers, and bottom tab and put the nyloc nut onto the bolt from the bottom.
Tighten securing bolt.
Tighten the 6 mount nuts securely. (27 ft-lbs or 37N-m)
Tighten adjuster lock snugly nut up against the end of the strut bar end.

ENJOY!!!!
Thank you,
Leslie, Jay, Mike

[82Ltype]

Hmmm.. Ok I'm having a problem installing the drivers side bracket. Only two of the three bolts fit through the holes. The bolt at the tip of the triangle pointing towards the engine will not fit through the hole. I've tried wiggling and some light banging but it just won't fit. Would jacking that side of the car up work to loosen the bolts enough to move them slightly? I mean, it just barely won't fit, it catches on the threads of the bolt. I'm going to try jacking it up in the morning(it's too dark now) to see if that will work. I'd just drill that sucker out but I don't want to wreck the ceramic coating. Leslie or anybody, got any suggestions?What should I do?Brian
ps. Mine would be the one that doesn't freakin fit.sigh.Bad luck :(

[MkIISuperSupra]

Brian,

You are the first I know of to have an issue getting the bar to fit. Has your car ever had any front end damage?

A couple of thoughts here. Are you trying to put the driver's side mounting plate on with the bar already assembled? If so, try putting the driver's side on with the bar completely disassembled and then make adjustments with the Hyme joint to get the fit. The bars are nearly impossible to get on assembled.

Also, yes, possibly jacking the car up a bit would reposition the strut studs just enough to get them to match up.

Let us know how it turns out. If there is a problem with your bar we will work something out.

Leslie

[82Ltype]

YES! I got it on! SCORE! I had to make that one hole just the tinniest bit bigger and it fit. I'll post a picture of it mounted by the end of the day.I also put some rubber washers on the adjustment screw so they didn't scratch the ceramic coating when I tighented them. That won't have any effect on anything would it? The screw is as tight as I can get it and everything looks ok. I don't think it should make any difference but I figure I had better ask anyway.
Ok, hope everybody else has an easier time and enjoys their bar as much as me! thanks again Leslie, Brian



yeah the previous owner rear ended sombody and did some damage to the bumper and quarter panel on the passenger side. I bet thats causing the problem. I was using just the plate bracket for that side, with the bar unassembled. Well I'll try jacking it up then, and let you know what happens.Thanks, B

[SilverMk2]

I would take the small drivers side piece and lay it over the bigger passenger side piece with the cross over bar. The bolt pattern should be the same from side to side (just mirrored over).

[Supra Bob]

Wow...I must be the only person who has one that hasn't put it on yet.. :(

The bar looks awesome tho Leslie! Thanks!

[SupraFiend]

I'm jealous, I want one too but I can't afford one right now. I'll get in on the next buy for sure if theres another!

[Andrew]

No, you're not, I haven't even recieved mine yet.. ;) Should be here mon, tues, wed... I'm also awaiting my tires, and my Split Second kit.. ALL this week.. WOOHOO

-Andrew

[kreber]

Hi,
Is there a rear strut bar also available? I seem to remember reading about them a long time ago. I imagine it would be perfect to have both a front AND a rear strut bar, right? Of course it must be a much greater difference in having the front one. Just curious to know if a rear is still available....

Kurt

[dohc82]

Most rear bars are Do-It-Yourself. They are not hard to make and there are 2 or 3 designs. They all seem to work well. One style bolts to the seat latches, another goes right over the top of the shocks-I have this style and it works fine.

-Wil

[TOYMAN321]

Anyone have any pics of these designs or a link to where I can see pics of the rear? thanks
-Kurt

[trdmkii]

Wow...I must be the only person who has one that hasn't put it on yet.. :(

The bar looks awesome tho Leslie! Thanks!

No your not, i still haven't installed mine, i just keep looking at it wishing i had time during the day. I can't wait i'm going to go for a hard drive, then install it, and then go for another drive, to get the total effect of the bar.

[Andrew]

Welp. Went to install my bar today, and discovered the passenger side studs don't line up with the plate.. The drivers side is ok.. Any suggestions???


-Andrew

[NHSUPRAFAN]

Bar received, installed and loved!

Thanks!!!




:P

[85_6mge]

Leslie,

Received the bar last friday and installed over the weekend.
Had some trouble lining up 2 of the 3 stut tower bolts on the passenger side. Nose of car had been tweaked some time in past so not unexpected. Had to ream two of the holes out a bit to get bracket on but not too bad.
Looks great and I can feel a real difference in cornering, etc.

Thanks Leslie, Jay and Mike.

Greg W

[BACK2SUPRA]

Leslie,

Just want to thank you for your time and effort in organizing and producing this GB.
Have not installed the bar yet though.

Thanks again.

Al

[Supra Bob]

7 minutes, 37 seconds. Thats how long my install took. Most of that time was locating the 15/16ths wrench. That 7:37 was the best time I have EVER spent on any project for my car. I can't believe the improvement! Took her out on some back roads and blasted into the turns, and the improvement is unbelieveable!!

Color me VERY VERY satisfied!

[MkIISuperSupra]

lol :lol:

Glad to hear that so many are enjoying their LJM strut bars. I have to admit I am well aware of what the bar can do. I doubt very few people will ever push their cars through turns to the levels I have. However, it is always nice to hear that others agree that it looks and performs well.

We initially started this project because there was a void that many had talked about. I knew I had contacts that could make it all come together. We were just trying to fill the void and come up with a design that would help the community get more from their cars. Sort of like being a parent, it is nice to see the project live up to its potential and it is nice to feel the community appreciate it.

Enjoy your cars and drive with care.

Leslie :D

[Junkie]

I doubt very few people will ever push their cars through turns to the levels I have.



:roll: Wanna bet :wink: I don't think I know how to drive withou pushing it -just a little :shock:

[MkIISuperSupra]

:roll: Wanna bet :wink: I don't think I know how to drive withou pushing it -just a little :shock:

hehehe Shawn, talk to me after you take a curve (posted at 65mph) that pulls 2 wheels off the ground going down a mountainside without guardrails at 124 mph. :?

Trust me, I'm not suggesting that anyone go out and try that. Actually I would hope no one else is stupid enough to push themselves or their car to that degree. :roll: I've survived a lot of things that are stupid and I would hope no one else would be dumb enough to try..........

Leslie

[Junkie]

LMAO,Leslie,you remind me of the old saying-There are old pilots,and bold pilots,but not both :wink:

I know there are several of us that wonder how we made it this long.Next time your up,I'll show you a couple 35mph roads I enjoy at a "few" miles an hour faster :twisted:

Before O' had the bar on we took a drive past my Mom's,out in the sticks.The straightaway past her house has a nice sweeper right before it,then into a hairpin about 1/2 mile past.
Lets just say,I used to drive that road "to pick up Karrie in H.S." at 70+ in a 62 Dodge 1/2 ton truck"usually driunk :drinking: ".The Supra's are much more fun.

By the way,where is this mountain road,I'm interested in a drive by. :evil:

[Push]

How much were the strut bars? Can I still get one?

[CJSREDPRA]

Oi.......

See page one of this poll/tread in regards to the price.

Don't know if Leslie has any spares. You'll either have to wait for the next GP, or see if someone has one for sale.

And this is for a Supra, right???? Don't think they are going to fit on a MX Cressida, IIRC...

[Push]

oh I thought it would fit a Cressida, since same engine and everything, but you never know. I really don't want to buy one of those cheap ones off ebay, don't know what I am getting.

[CJSREDPRA]

Don't think it had anything to do w/ the motor. It was the width between the 2 front strut towers. I "thought" someone said the distance between the 2 is different?????

[MkIISuperSupra]

Not too sure about the width of the engine bay, however I do know the hole alignment on the sturt tower pillows is different.

Leslie

[williamb82]

does anyone have a ljm bar theyd like to sell?
william

[cf_koch]

I have been watching for a group buy on some strut bars since I found this site in the summer. You can definately count me in. Does anybody know where I can order some rear braces? :D

[MkIISuperSupra]

I'll gladly set up a new poll and group buy if there is enough interest. It takes a minimum of 10 prepaid orders before we can start having the bars made. Typically, there is little interest at this time of year due to the holidays and the cost of the bar. However, if enough of you are serious, I'll gladly set up a group buy anytime.

Leslie

[williamb82]

let me know when you start the next one. i need another front bar. luckily the one i had wasnt on the red car when it was wrecked or itd be twisted right now.
william

[JZA-61]

My Dad will be back in the US in January '04. I tried to get him to get a LMJ Bar last year - but he went AWOL in Texas for a couple of months. :roll: If there is a bar available, I'd love to try again this year!


cheers,

Justin
JZA61

[MkIISuperSupra]

Justin,

Looks like there is enough interest that we will probably be putting together a new group buy fairly soon so maybe we can get something worked out.

I did ship a bar to Australia last year and found that it can be done for about 27.00 US for shipping. Only very slightly more expensive than shipping to Canada. So if there are others from OZ who are interested, shipping isn't nearly as prohibitive as previously thought.

Leslie

[JZA-61]

Thanks Leslie - sounds good. I hope another group buy happens soon. I'm also guessing that there won't be a problem wrapping it around a 1JZGTE.

Good onya,

Justin

[supra_toy]

let me know when you start the next one. i need another front bar. luckily the one I had wasn’t on the red car when it was wrecked or itd be twisted right now.
william

I rolled my last supra doing 60+ mph. If that bar wasn’t there I most likely would have ended up with the engine in my lap. The bar had to be removed with a crow bar and when it was removed the entire engine bay shifted over an inch. One tough bar!

Just to note the LJM bar (which I bought secondhand) is on my current supra after a little bending on the bench vice... sits extremely tight and very stiff.

Hail the LJM bar! Great for suspension and safety.

will

[williamb82]

mine was hit on the front left by a guy that ran the red light. the whole front of my car was shifted to the passenger side a foot or 2. pretty bad. when i gutted the car. the front right was severly fubar. the sway bar was bent, the control arm, the tierod, the stiffiner bar that bolts to the frame, etc.. also, the drivers side front wheel was sticking out like it was an open wheel modified. pics didnt do it justice of how bad it was. you could ask dave a or eric and they can tell you as they saw it in person.

www.geocities.com/williamb82/page_11

www.geocities.com/williamb82/page_12

william