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Initial Z
03-11-2007, 07:19 PM
Ok guys, Here's my first ever tech write up.
I just figured this out last night so be kind if this has already been covered.

I've been having a lot of trouble starting my mk2 lately. As the weather got colder the worse the problem got. Having checked the TSRM, I figured out that the cold start injector was not firing. Ok, so same problem umpteen million other supra owners have had to deal with. However, being low on cash right now, I couldn't just run out to Toyota and buy a new one, and it's too cold to go roaming through the junk yards. So I started looking through the electrical diagrams, trying to figure out another way. Here's my solution.

Now in case you didn't know, the cold start injector is not powered by the ECU. It's actually powered by the starter circuit. When the starter is not cranking the injector does not fire, period. The ECU only decides when to allow the injector to fire, based on coolant temperature. It fires the injector by letting it go to ground. The injectors positive side is always connected so any time the starter cranks the injector has power. The "Switch" is after the injector on the ground side. So we don't actually need it.

By connecting the injector directly to ground it will always fire any time the starter runs. Ok, it's true that once the engine is already warm this will make it go rich when starting, but only for an instant. As soon as the engine kicks and you let off the key, it's back to running on the primary injectors only. Not a real problem. And it seems to work like a dream on my car. Instant starting again, nice.

So, here's the mod. It's easy and only cost about 50 cents.
Disconnect the start injector time switch. When looking into the connector, (that is, the side with the wires), the pin you want is on the right side of the connector when the dimple inside the connector is facing up. You'll see what I mean if you look inside it. You need to run a wire from this pin to ground.

To protect the circuit use a 50k ohm resister in line with this wire to limit the power going though it. That's it.

The quick and easy way to do this is run a wire to the negative terminal on the battery or any convenient bolt on the block or chassis. As long as it's grounded. Cut the wire in half and use the resistor to splice the wires back together. Wire/Resistor/Wire. Connect one end to the battery and the other to the pin of the connector. Use some electrical tape to hold everything together and make sure nothing can get caught in the belt and such. Use your imagination. Instant temporary repair until you can get a new switch.

By the way, although this mod is currently working in my own car...
Use at your own risk. If anything goes wrong, don't blame me. ;)

Peace.

Suprasman01
03-16-2007, 03:08 AM
Hmmm? Okay so the computer only sends positve to the switch when the starter is cranking? Or by grounding it out manually the injector is constantly open when the engine is running? If the latter be true, you may want to add a switch inside to enable a shut off of this circuit.......Just a thought./

JoelD

Initial Z
03-17-2007, 09:27 PM
No, the starter sends positive to the injector any time the car is cranking. the time switch connects the injector to negative when the engine is cold, completing the circuit, and firing the injector. By connecting the time switch connector directly to ground the injector will fire any time the starter runs, but only when the starter runs. Still working on a better solution though, and keep in mind it is only supposed to be a temp fix. Also, the 50K ohm resistor may be too big. Working on finding the perfect value, so will get back with that later.

To be continued...

modmonster2007
03-24-2007, 03:59 AM
hey does anyone know how to "DIY" the cold start injector time switch for another reason bcuz my MKII's time switch is broken, supposed to read 3-5ohms but shows 31ohms, what should i do, im too broke to replace it in an instant, i want to do somethin wit it, does anyone know what i should do, cuz when da car is on running temp, the car always idles high due to the cold start injector on all the time....

roadrash
03-24-2007, 12:10 PM
So, here's the mod. It's easy and only cost about 50 cents.
Disconnect the start injector time switch. When looking into the connector, (that is, the side with the wires), the pin you want is on the right side of the connector when the dimple inside the connector is facing up. You'll see what I mean if you look inside it. You need to run a wire from this pin to ground.

To protect the circuit use a 50k ohm resister in line with this wire to limit the power going though it. That's it.

Not wanting to sound like a noob, but where is the start injector time switch?

Road Ripper
03-25-2007, 08:08 PM
RR, it's one of the two sensors on top of the thermostat housing to narrow it down for you.

Thanks for the info, as I can use it to fix it in a different way! The usual problem many have is on hot starts, the cold start injector is fired, causing the engine to run rich for 10 seconds. I just want to disable the injector when the engine is warm. Should be able to figure it out now! Thanks again!