PDA

View Full Version : 1982 Red/Black MkII (Very RARE) (Bellevue WA)



Mone
07-14-2008, 01:49 AM
Owner Info:
Owner: Tim Fuqua
Phone #: PM please
Email: timfuqua@gmail.com
Location: Bellevue WA
Asking Price: $4000


Car Info:

For those of you who have seen this car know that it is clean. For those of you who know your supras, knows that its incredibly rare. I came across this 1982 Red/Black MkII a year ago this August and bought it for myself as a wedding present. Shortly afterwards I bought an 85 shell that I could put my 6M into, and now that's the car that I daily drive. Due to the fact that my wife and I have so many cars and that I won't be giving this car a good garage to stay in, I want to sell it so that it stays well-preserved. Here's some info on the car:

VIN#: JT2MA67L500003622 <-- Very early model. SEP 1981 Build Date
Firewall plate reads:

MODEL: MA61L-BLMQFA
C/TR/A/TM: 299 FX21 F303 W58

For those that don't know about this, the 299 color scheme was only offered for 82 models, and I've spent a good portion of the day today finding out just how many we've seen in this forum's history. I've counted 8 including mine (donkita, bigpanda16, doug82supra, Tanya, sickntwstdtoy, Utterly1337, jmdeguia, Mone). The 299 color scheme is also the ONLY color scheme where the front bumper was colored (other than black).

The interior is AMAZING. Not a single rip in any of the vinyl, and with the exception of 2 small blemishes, it would be a 10/10. As it sits, I would give it a 9.5/10, you can nitpick it to a 9/10, but really can't get lower than that.

The engine runs strong. I was surprised for an 82 5M on the 3.73 gears. I replaced the timing belt 4k miles ago, as well as the idler pulley, and the oil was changed 300 miles ago. The radiator was newly purchased from the owner before me, as was the water pump and clutch fan. I just flushed the radiator today and replaced the coolant as well as re-timing it. I got 24mpg this last fillup, and have regularly been getting 22-24mpg.

The tires are 235/60/R14s all around with plenty of tread still on them. They were put on the car 1.5 years ago, so they should still be good age-wise as well. I have the original spare in the back as well, but as its a VERY old tire, it should not be used and should only be used as part of a showcase.

I originally bought the car because I wanted MkII again. After looking at it for the first time, I instantly knew that I couldn't daily drive it. It is in way too good of condition to be driven heavily. This is a timepiece, and it needs to be a garage queen for someone. I wouldn't be selling this if I had a house that I could garage it in. I am also going to include the rare master key lock box. It makes a great addition to a showcase car.

If you say that my asking price is steep, or on the high side, I would beg to differ. As an example, you can read up on how one of our forum members paid $6k for his 299, which in all aspects I would rate as a 10/10 car. Against the scale where his car is a 10, I would say mine is a 9. There is not a single spec of rust on the body, inside or out. The only rust is on the hatch, which I believe was transplanted on because it has an aftermarket 85/86 spoiler.

Here is a link to the thread concerning his purchase, as well as a link to his cardomain where you can compare what I consider a 10/10 299 example, and you can see my car is reasonably a 9/10 299 example. So while I consider my car 90% as good as a $6000 supra, I'm only asking $4000 for mine from celicasupra.com members. I'll be putting the car on craigslist either tomorrow or tuesday with an asking price of $4500, as I like to discount the community because there's a better chance it will go to a good home within the community. I may also put it up on ebay, but I don't know if I want to do that yet (I've never sold anything on ebay before and only purchased one thing on it, so I a car might not make a good first transaction).

donkita's purchase (http://forums.celicasupra.com/showthread.php?t=27452)
donkita's 299 pics (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2553482)

This car needs less than $1000 worth of bits and pieces here and there to get it up to the level of donkita's $6000 beauty, and really won't require much time either. Its mostly just paint touch-ups (for the front bumper) and fill in pieces (like the left rear suspension cap).

Without further a due, on to my pics...

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301130.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301132.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301133.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301134.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301135.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301136.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301137.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301138.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301139.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301140.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301141.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301142.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301143.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301144.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301145.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301146.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301147.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301148.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301149.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301150.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301151.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301152.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301154.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301155.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301156.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301157.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301160.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301161.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301162.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301163.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301164.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301165.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301166.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301167.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301168.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301169.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301170.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301171.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Blupra%20-%20No%20Damage/Masterkey001.png


If you or anyone that you know who would be interested has any questions or would like more specific pictures, please feel free to email me or pm me with a phone number and I can call you and talk with you about the car.

SupraGuy31
07-14-2008, 01:50 PM
im going to be nice and not Beat this one to death. Im going to give you one word of Advice.....Dont ever ever compare your car with Keiths 100&#37; original Immaculate show room condition 82 Supra. I would pay 8,000 for that car and not think second about it.

Now since you have a Rare color 82, I will say that its in OK shape but there is alot more than $1,000 worth of work that needs to be done to it to even come close to looking as good as His car does. Im going to ask about these parts and let me know about them.

1. What happened to the orginial hatch that made this car also unique.
2. Pic #8, Cigarette burns in the seats and the center console lid isnt the right one
3. Pic 10, Seat ripped. and another Cigarette hole.
4. What brand of muffler is on it as that exhaust is going to screw up the paint sooner or later.
5. Front end damage to passenger side. Sorry but you cant just use touch up paint, that bumper is going to have to come off and be repaired or replaced.
6. Door covers have to be romoved and reglued due to the Fabric coming apart.
7. Tires need to be the original size
8. Hatch.... Not even going to go there as there is alot of rust on it and would cost a couple hundred (3 to 4) to get it repaired and repainted.
9. Paint is faded all the way around from what I can see.
10. Take that board off the top of Spare tire cover
11. Is that 189,000 on an original engine that hasnt been rebuilt

Only reason Im mentioning these things is if and only if you are going to compare your car to someone elses than make sure you are is atleast close to the same condition. If you get $4,000 out of it, thats great. Just watch how you present the car. Maybe go back and clean up your first post. Dont include his pics as there isnt an 82 out there that can compare to his. Looking at his and looking at yours side by side is going to do nothing but hurt your sale.

Again, Good luck and I hope it finds a great home.

Mone
07-14-2008, 02:29 PM
im going to be nice and not Beat this one to death. Im going to give you one word of Advice.....Dont ever ever compare your car with Keiths 100&#37; original Immaculate show room condition 82 Supra. I would pay 8,000 for that car and not think second about it.

Now since you have a Rare color 82, I will say that its in OK shape but there is alot more than $1,000 worth of work that needs to be done to it to even come close to looking as good as His car does. Im going to ask about these parts and let me know about them.

1. What happened to the orginial hatch that made this car also unique.
2. Pic #8, Cigarette burns in the seats and the center console lid isnt the right one
3. Pic 10, Seat ripped. and another Cigarette hole.
4. What brand of muffler is on it as that exhaust is going to screw up the paint sooner or later.
5. Front end damage to passenger side. Sorry but you cant just use touch up paint, that bumper is going to have to come off and be repaired or replaced.
6. Door covers have to be romoved and reglued due to the Fabric coming apart.
7. Tires need to be the original size
8. Hatch.... Not even going to go there as there is alot of rust on it and would cost a couple hundred (3 to 4) to get it repaired and repainted.
9. Paint is faded all the way around from what I can see.
10. Take that board off the top of Spare tire cover
11. Is that 189,000 on an original engine that hasnt been rebuilt

Only reason Im mentioning these things is if and only if you are going to compare your car to someone elses than make sure you are is atleast close to the same condition. If you get $4,000 out of it, thats great. Just watch how you present the car. Maybe go back and clean up your first post. Dont include his pics as there isnt an 82 out there that can compare to his. Looking at his and looking at yours side by side is going to do nothing but hurt your sale.

Again, Good luck and I hope it finds a great home.

I have no problems answering these questions. If I know the reasons, then I'll answer them.

1. What happened to the orginial hatch that made this car also unique.
I don't know what happened to the original hatch, but I'm betting this is a hatch from an 85 with an aftermarket dual spoiler (I say aftermarket because the top spoiler is one piece rather than a seperate piece like the 85 spoilers. Black hatches are not hard to find. I have a rust free hatch with the original upper sunshade in storage, and can swap it on if requested.

2. Pic #8, Cigarette burns in the seats and the center console lid isnt the right one
There are 3 blemishes, as I originally thought, and posted, that there were 2. There is a small burn on each seat, and there is the inevitable side seat damage to the driver's seat as well. The original center console was torn and the lid is the original lid, but I replaced the ripped center console with one that I purchased from Chris Eng that came off an 84. The 82 lids don't fit the 84 consoles (they're a little shorter than the 84-86 consoles).

3. Pic 10, Seat ripped. and another Cigarette hole.
See explanation with #2.

4. What brand of muffler is on it as that exhaust is going to screw up the paint sooner or later.
I do not know the brand of muffler. The original mufflers cost ~$100 last I checked, and less than $200 installed.

5. Front end damage to passenger side. Sorry but you cant just use touch up paint, that bumper is going to have to come off and be repaired or replaced.
I don't know what damage you're implying. If it looks like there is damage its just an illusion. I've check all the photos I have of the front passenger side bumper and have looked at the bumper extensively (due to the paint fading I thought it might be damaged as well, but no, no damage and its perfectly straight).

6. Door covers have to be romoved and reglued due to the Fabric coming apart.
Even so, the fabric is completely in tact, not faded and I've dismatled a door and put it back together in a couple hours. Restretching and reglueing (I really dont think this is a word, but it'll work) it will cost only the cost of the glue and a few hours of time for both doors.

7. Tires need to be the original size
I have a set of tires in the original size that can go on upon request.

8. Hatch.... Not even going to go there as there is alot of rust on it and would cost a couple hundred (3 to 4) to get it repaired and repainted.
Referring to #1, I have another hatch that can go on.

9. Paint is faded all the way around from what I can see.
Paint is not faded, I can assure you. It was like 2:30pm when I took those photos on a hot sunny day on a bare dirt ground. If the paint looks faded at all, its because of the lighting conditions and my camera (its a $50 camera, not a digital slr or anything). The only thing the paint needs is touch-up on the front bumper and there are random rock dings (about 1mm in size) across the front of the hood (where a bra would've been nice). This paint scheme alone makes the car a $2000 shell, as it is the second best example of a 299 we've ever come across even if the interior were cracked all around and the motor had issues (unless Tanya can speak otherwise, her pics of her car aren't high quality and I don't know the condition of the paint, interior, etc).

10. Take that board off the top of Spare tire cover
I have another one taken off of a 40k mileage 82 supra and can put it on upon request. It is the nicest condition board I've ever seen as well, and I've seen plenty from all of the pacnw meets.

11. Is that 189,000 on an original engine that hasnt been rebuilt
Yes it is 189k original miles and the engine doesn't think its any older than 100k :). I know the previous owner changed the oil every 3k miles and I have done the same. I changed it a few hundred miles after I bought it, and then about 300 miles ago, altogether I've put around 4000 miles on it since last August. I used to drive a 150 mile round-trip with this car often, so most of those miles are all freeway. And like I said, I changed the timing belt when I got it, so I know its fresh. It had been last changed at 110k miles back in 1995. And an engine doesn't need to be rebuilt if it gets taken care of. I've seen 22re's go 400-500k and not need rebuilding just because the owner has it tuned-up and serviced every 30k miles. I've seen hondas go 750k the same way. This engine is solid. I never revved it past 5k myself, as I know this car is too good to play around with.


Please do feel free to follow up on these answers with any other comments/criticism as it only helps to shed light on any dark areas about the car. The only reason that I haven't replaced the parts that I say that I have spares for is in car there is someone out there who wants this that has parts of their own that they want to put on there. I know of many people that hord parts, and very well could have the perfect rust free hatch, or maybe they have their own brand of tires already mounted on polished original rims that they may want to put on the car. I can replace any of these parts myself upon request or I can leave them for the next person. If I don't sell the car, I'm going to just dd it (5 miles each day to and from work) every other week with my other supra (to give them both some attention).

Hopefully I can get some more discussion on the car and maybe some other people to vouch for its quality (those who have seen it at the previous meets perhaps?).

*Edit* And I'm not trying to say my car is nearly as nice as Donkita's. That car is immaculate. A perfect example of how the 299 should look. I'm pricing mine at 2/3 the price though. And I'm open for offers as well. But I do strongly believe that even at the $4k price, you could have this car to the same (or just a little under) quality as his for $2000 or less.

Malloy
07-14-2008, 06:58 PM
Pls see:
http://forums.celicasupra.com/announcement.php?f=51 thnx

CJSREDPRA
07-16-2008, 02:38 AM
The original center console was torn and the lid is the original lid, but I replaced the ripped center console with one that I purchased from Chris Eng that came off an 84. The 82 lids don't fit the 84 consoles (they're a little shorter than the 84-86 consoles).

Uh... Tim......

Hate to say this, but that's not even the original, much less the correct console lid.

Other than the color changes between Terra Cotta & Maroon, the console lids are actually ALL THE SAME between 82 & 86. Length is even the same as well.

Just from looking at the picture that has the console lid.... I can tell that it's a 82 - 85 Celica console lid. Did that lid that is in the picture, cover the storage bin on the console that came w/ the car??? I'm betting the lower console that came w/ the Panda, also came from a Celica.

Good luck w/ the sale!!

Road Ripper
07-16-2008, 06:19 AM
That "board on top of the spare tire cover" is a FACTORY piece. The 82-83 Supras used a solid piece because of the narrow steel rimmed spare, and the 84-86 used one with a cut-out for clearance for the 14x8 factory aluminum spare wheel.

That said, the insulation on that spare tire cover looks mouse-eaten, so I suspect if there's an odor of mouse pee in the car.

That rear spoiler/wing IS a one-piece! Wow, never seen one of those before. They did offer those in the old J. C. Whitney catalogs years ago, so that's probably where it came from.

Is it missing the engine under-cover? From one of the engine pics, it looks like it is.

+1 on that center console lid being from a Celica. The Celicas didn't have the maplight, so the console and lid were shorter.

Inevitable tearing on the drivers seat bolster? I've had my 84 for almost 10 years, and my bolster still isn't torn. I daily drive my Supra, too. You just have to know how to get in and out of them properly to avoid the damage (someone should make a video of this).

All in all though, the car is a thing of beauty and certainly has potential. Good luck with the sale!

BillyM
07-16-2008, 09:46 AM
Celica's also didn't have the temperature sensors, so the temp controls will not work...

--BillyM

Mone
07-16-2008, 01:58 PM
Uh... Tim......

Hate to say this, but that's not even the original, much less the correct console lid.

Other than the color changes between Terra Cotta & Maroon, the console lids are actually ALL THE SAME between 82 & 86. Length is even the same as well.

Just from looking at the picture that has the console lid.... I can tell that it's a 82 - 85 Celica console lid. Did that lid that is in the picture, cover the storage bin on the console that came w/ the car??? I'm betting the lower console that came w/ the Panda, also came from a Celica.

Good luck w/ the sale!!

The lid info was something that got discussed in the previous version of the thread before it got kinda cluttered and Malloy cleaned it up. The corrected information just hadn't made it back into the new thread. But the center consol is from an 84. I bought it from you at Dave's spring meet this year. I bought it to temporarily replace my original console which had a big crack in it.


That "board on top of the spare tire cover" is a FACTORY piece. The 82-83 Supras used a solid piece because of the narrow steel rimmed spare, and the 84-86 used one with a cut-out for clearance for the 14x8 factory aluminum spare wheel.

That said, the insulation on that spare tire cover looks mouse-eaten, so I suspect if there's an odor of mouse pee in the car.

That rear spoiler/wing IS a one-piece! Wow, never seen one of those before. They did offer those in the old J. C. Whitney catalogs years ago, so that's probably where it came from.

Is it missing the engine under-cover? From one of the engine pics, it looks like it is.

+1 on that center console lid being from a Celica. The Celicas didn't have the maplight, so the console and lid were shorter.

Inevitable tearing on the drivers seat bolster? I've had my 84 for almost 10 years, and my bolster still isn't torn. I daily drive my Supra, too. You just have to know how to get in and out of them properly to avoid the damage (someone should make a video of this).

All in all though, the car is a thing of beauty and certainly has potential. Good luck with the sale!

The bolster rip was like that when I bought it sadly. There was nothing I could do about it. As well as the two small burn holes in the pass and drivers seats.

The spoiler is definately interesting. Being a one-piece and all. I took one of the shots to specifically show that too. Its not the original, but it definately is an interesting aftermarket find.

The back board is a little beat up, but as I've mentioned in Q&A #10 in the previous post, I have a much better replacement board that I plan to put on it, unless a buyer wants to use their own. Most of the things wrong with the car I've been using what little weekend time I have to slowly replace and fix on the car. The things mentioned are just the ones I haven't gotten around to yet.

And I have an 82 rock guard (samurai armor) from my old 82 that I was going to put on this one. All in due time.


Celica's also didn't have the temperature sensors, so the temp controls will not work...

--BillyM

I bought the 84 center console from Chris at Dave's spring meet back in april. So this isn't an issue.

In light of these missing parts, some of them I realize that I don't have, so I guess its time to make a WTB thread for some parts. :)

CarFreek
07-17-2008, 01:18 AM
Tim, there is another local CS.com member with a 299-Dodgeboy79, my neighbor.

WadeT
07-17-2008, 05:06 AM
Sorry OT, but deff diggin' that 66-67 Galaxy.. It could have a 428!

Mone
07-17-2008, 10:35 AM
Tim, there is another local CS.com member with a 299-Dodgeboy79, my neighbor.

I've been contacting him, I'm trying to arrange a photoshoot with his and my pandas, maybe for the calendar. Endangered species and all that. lol.


Sorry OT, but deff diggin' that 66-67 Galaxy.. It could have a 428!

66 Galaxy with a 390 :(, but receipts from 67 on up from the 2nd owner. My father-in-law picked it up for $100, running. The interior is almost perfect, but the exterior needs a good rub down and repaint.

Mone
07-23-2008, 06:21 PM
BUMP

If no one wants to buy it, I'll just be forced to take care of it to the best of my ability. Darn. :)

mutated
07-29-2008, 08:43 PM
hmmm, had a looky, that front damage to the drivers side..wait..no america...passengers side, lol, looks like the header isn't pefectly in line, giving it the look of the bumper being out of line...

Anyway, good luck with sale, love the interior, want that colour in my supra :(

Mone
07-29-2008, 08:50 PM
I've checked out the "bump" and it does appear to be less convex than normal, but in no way is it a full-blown concave bulge. I'm going to try to suction pull it out a little when I get the time and have the right tools. I want to make sure not to harm the paint though.

And which picture is it that makes the bumper look out of alignment, I'm trying to find it. I'm trying to compare it with other bumpers, but the passenger side "bump" is all I'm aware of from people. So which pic do you think it looks out of alignment in?

scorpmatt
07-29-2008, 09:15 PM
Pass side, see the damage and such?
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301147.jpg

Driver's side, not so much
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301148.jpg

Mone
07-29-2008, 09:44 PM
alright, so I went back to the original photo and cropped it to just the bumper area. And I was just out looking at it in person under different lighting conditions and everything. Hopefully this will clear some things up.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/SupraMone/Craigslist/82%20Supra%20Betty/S6301147-closeup.jpg

As you can see, I've circled a number of spots that can be considered "damaged" areas. I've always thought that people were just looking past the chipping paint and saw area #4 as being a spot that might have gotten a love tab or got hit by a bag of heavy groceries or something. That's what I thought mutated was talking about and several others who have commented. I've inspected it and compared it to the driver's side and the difference is so small that I don't even think there's anything to "pull out" with a suction cup.

Areas #1 and #3 both look like there is a chance that somewhere in this car's past that they brushed with another car, or solid object of some sort, but I don't believe so, Only the paint is missing, and that's all. There's no indentation or any sign that it isn't in the exact form that it was originally in.

Area #2 can't be damage from a solid object because its recessed in the bumper. Areas #1 and #3 would have taken the hit. So #2 is simply the paint cracking and chipping.

The only way I'll know for sure if this is actually a damaged area is if I patch up the paint and try to pull out whatever is making it look like there's a bluge there in area #4. I'll do that eventually, but if the missing paint is what everyone is talking about, seriously, paint faded/chips/cracks. Its just sun damage IMO.

BillyM
07-29-2008, 10:20 PM
...looks like "sun damage" backed into your bumper.

That piece will not "pull out", as it's not metal.

--billyM

dfish_mkii
07-30-2008, 12:54 AM
it looks like you had mice at some point. does the car smell? is that why you have what looks like 4 or 5 air fresheners in the car. lol

Mone
07-30-2008, 01:15 AM
it looks like you had mice at some point. does the car smell? is that why you have what looks like 4 or 5 air fresheners in the car. lol

I don't know if there was ever a mice problem. And there's no smell in the car, the previous owner had them up, and I just liked the smell, so I left them. The spare's cushion is a bit torn up, but as I've stated, I have an extra and can install it at the buyer's request.

Malloy
07-30-2008, 01:59 AM
Its pretty obvious that the bumper either hit, or was hit by something much larger than a bag of groceries.


...looks like "sun damage" backed into your bumper.

That piece will not "pull out", as it's not metal.

--billyM

scorpmatt
07-30-2008, 02:36 AM
mone, look at the curve up just below your #2 circle. that is an obivous flaw.

DON
08-06-2008, 12:52 AM
Enough with all the critical comments, the car is worth $1200.oo to $2000.00. A rare or low production number only means somthing when it's in really good condition. Your car is average condition. It would need alot of cash and time to bring it to the high end value. you have done a great job with your pics, good luck with the sale.

doug82supra
10-13-2008, 10:03 PM
All this panda-bashing is destressing.

crazydriver
12-21-2008, 01:25 PM
hay would you sale one of the Corollas in the back ground

Midnight Drifter
01-04-2009, 11:30 AM
Let's see more of that AE86 :DD


Wicked Panda A60, by the way. LOVE IT!