THE QUARTER PANEL REPLACEMENT

[Angkistrodon]

This past weekend I replaced my right quarter, something I've been wanting to do for quite a while.

Here is the "new" panel cut a ready to go.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/Angkistrodon/quater/f9dbc58f.jpg

This is what I had originally.....every now and then I would spray some undercoat or something on it to make it look like I was working on it.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/Angkistrodon/quater/f9dbc58d.jpg

Old cut off........

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/Angkistrodon/quater/Quarteroff.jpg

Rough fit before weld....

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/Angkistrodon/quater/f9dbc584.jpg

Mud after the weld.....

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/Angkistrodon/quater/f9dbc57f.jpg

Sanding and paper.....

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/Angkistrodon/quater/paper.jpg

Primer and bits.......

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/Angkistrodon/quater/f9dbc570.jpg


And the flare.......

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/Angkistrodon/quater/f9dbc564.jpg




Well, scratch that off the list.




UPDATE>>>>>>>

ANd here I am today...


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/Angkistrodon/f5231380.jpg


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/Angkistrodon/posing4.jpg

[thecat]

WOW good work. :shock: What did you cut it off with?

[Angkistrodon]

Dewalt cutting wheel on an air tool.....lots of sparks!!!

[trdmkii]

amazing work, looks great

[Angkistrodon]

Thanks....the panel was wrecked when I got the car....about 1 1/2 years ago, and has been on my mind every day since. Now I can have 2 side marker lights!!!!! and complete interior trim in the trunk, its the little things that make a big difference, OH YEA!!!!!! I forgot about the R E A R W I N D O W W A S H E R.........The little things!!

[DannyG]

I'm happy to see you got the quarter panel done nicely. One day, hopefully while I'm in school, or if I can land a job as a helper, I can try and do my left quarter panel. Its been hit hard before, but for now its nicely pulled & bondoed. It's like my turn now to wait forever on doing my quarter panel :lol:

[dogstar]

care to come do my rear quarters? :D

hehe

[Angkistrodon]

I Must keep this thread alive EVERYBODY must see what I have done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

[dynamic73]

Very nice work :shock: Looks like factory. Glad to see you don't have to worry about it rusting there anymore. Great Job :hail:

[Angkistrodon]

................must......keep .....ughhh....thread alive............ughhhhh.......................... ......................................thread dying.......must.................................. .....



.................................agrhhhhhhhh... . . .

[moon]

hey thats looks good you gotta be a body man fer a livin..if not WOW .. good werk

[84_celicasupra]

very very nice work, hopefully i can do the same with mine, but all i need to do is sand and paint.

[trdmkii]

my black 84 has damage to rear quarter infront of the wheel i'd have to cut where you did but forward...wonder how tough that would be....but i'll say it again to keep the thread alive....GREAT FLIPPIN JOB MAN....

[memories83]

Really nice work. Thanks for sharing it with the group.

[Angkistrodon]

my black 84 has damage to rear quarter infront of the wheel i'd have to cut where you did but forward...wonder how tough that would be....but i'll say it again to keep the thread alive....GREAT FLIPPIN JOB MAN....

Where I cut it we didn't have to mess with the glass at all, only some of the trim......I don't know about further forward though.

[Andy_French]

Very good job indeed. Luckily I wont need to do that, most of the rust on my car is little spots on the door, and just below the door. So HOPEFULLY it will be as easy as sanding it out, or just buy some new doors.

[gtkilla]

I think that I have located a rear 1/4, and I was thinking about cutting the 1/4 off of my car to save on the body work bill. Since I have not done this I have a few basic questions. First question is : is it worth me doing this, and the second is : where do i cut in relation to my new 1/4 (do I cut it short and let the body man do the fine cutting, and where on the line along the top where my hatch sits).

[Angkistrodon]

Well......Before cutting anything yourself talk to the shop you want to do the work and ask them if they are cool with that. Many shops, including the one I work at, will frown upon that kind of work. Not because you don't know what you are doing, but because they will not be able to gurranty the result.

If you do decide to go a head and cut it yourself, cut it so the new panel will overlap the body about an inch to 2 inched, so you can get a good weld. The shop can always cut some off if necessary. If you cut too much, any attempt to fill the gap will first off cost alot more and second not come out very well.

And too the cutting.....the only places you need to cut are on the piller above the window, and the panel below it. You DON'T cut along the hatch, under the tail lights, or along the bottom!!! These are welds that need to be drilled out then the panel needs to pe pryed off. You will also need to punch or drill holes in the new panel that match up to the ones you put in the old panel. These are where you will put the new welds.

Also When the panel is off your car make sure all rust is carefully taken care of. Grind holes in the metal if you need to! Just be sure you get ALL of it. It will be a real bitch to get too much less see after the new panel is in place. Also prime the HELL out of it.

Post some pics of you car now and the new quarter you want to put on and I'll try to give you a better idea of whats up.

[MAD_83supra]

Is it a good idea to remove the gas tank. Looks like you didnt in the pics.

[Angkistrodon]

The gas cap assembly....yes, but no need to remove the whole tank.

[Funkycheeze]

i'd do it - and i will

its a good chance to inspect the tank for leaks or rust, plus i have a rule about flammable liquids and their proximity to a welder...

[85 rat rod]

that is awsome, i used to have a 1990 rs camaro before my supra and when not paying attention one day i hit the grage pole and scraped and dented the shit out of the rear left quarter, i never knew how ya fixed that kind of damage, but now i am informed, is it as structurally sound as the origional, did you run into any warping problems during or after you welded?

[Angkistrodon]

It is as strong as the original. I only replaced the outer skin so with the welds it should stay as strong. No no warping it amazingly fit right in.

[Donn29]

where did the donor panel come from. if from another car, is there a good place to get a new one(other than another car).

[Donn29]

hhmmm?

[Angkistrodon]

It came a much sought after Celica XX, I'm pretty sure. By much sought after I mean Rust-Free. Other than off a old car I'm not really sure where to get one.....Dealer?????????? If so It will probably cost 10,000 or so dollars LOL.

[Supra_GT_R]

what do you do when the front of your quater cracks? my MR2's quater just cracked when the mechanic put it on the hoist :oops:

[Kingsoup]

Hey to bad these pics are down. I have to do this soon on my friends 84, and I wouldn't mind to get a look at this template before I start cutting and welding!

[Angkistrodon]

Imagemate Sucks......I'll fix the photos up in photobucket tonight.

[84supraman]

Hey that looks nice! I did the same thing on the same side, but I cut the quarter just before the gas tank and after the window. It came out good. I haven't got a flare yet but thats soon.

[GAMBO]

Are these pictures still around anywhere?

I'm trying to find a good picture of a clean quarter as there is a place that may be able to make them but they want to see a detailed picture of where the flare attaches.

The company is in Frelighsburg Quebec; www.alfaparts.net he said probably $300 per side...their stuff looks pretty nice...they could probably also do just the lower front and back.

Anyone have good pictures? Thanks

[Angkistrodon]

Yea I got them give me a few days......Finally got broadband at home again!!.

[Angkistrodon]

everything should be updated now.

[CELICA_GT_Guate]

congratssss bro

nice workkkkk

[Angkistrodon]

Thank you....

[Yotaholic]

Are these pictures still around anywhere?

I'm trying to find a good picture of a clean quarter as there is a place that may be able to make them but they want to see a detailed picture of where the flare attaches.

The company is in Frelighsburg Quebec; www.alfaparts.net he said probably $300 per side...their stuff looks pretty nice...they could probably also do just the lower front and back.

Anyone have good pictures? Thanks


I'm also in the middle of a 1/4 panel job on my 84. I just ordered 2 new 1/4 panels from Cross Canada Body Parts. The application is 82 -85 celica..part #'s 814650f-1 and 814650f-2 ...cost is between 86.00 and 170 depending on if your a dealer or if your forced to pay list price. The rear 1/4 's are the same on the celica so they will work just fine. I'm new to the site and very glad to see so many people share my passion for Supra's. I will post some pics of the panels when they arrive and juring installation. Website is www.crosscanadaparts.com

[Donn29]

Are you able to get me better pricing on stuff? Would like to get a few other items from there.

[Yotaholic]

Are you able to get me better pricing on stuff? Would like to get a few other items from there.

Sure Don i would be happy to help ya out but they will require that the parts are shiped to me first then I would have to forward them to you.. Frieght may offset the savings....put a list together and i will see what i can do.
B.R.

[Donn29]

PM
Also those Rear quarters are L types FYI

[stevrock]

You have the drill holes to get the flares to fit, there was another thread.

I'm thinking it was dogstar who had them last..

[Donn29]

You mean he did it with panels from this Company? Or just a L type/Celica?

[stevrock]

The ones from crosscanadaparts.com.

It's in another thread somewhere through here.
Last I remember about the thread was dogstar saying he was going to try them.

[Yotaholic]

The ones from crosscanadaparts.com.

It's in another thread somewhere through here.
Last I remember about the thread was dogstar saying he was going to try them.
Thanks Stev that confirms what i was thinkin had to be done. Good deal under $100.00 . i did some searching and can't seem to find any info on the P and L type rear 1/4's . Maybe you can find that tread or dogstar.

[Disco Dan]

That is some sexy body work. And like, not an illusion. I hate bondo jobs. My Black 92 Celica Convertible has a left rear quarter panel that was hit before I owned it, and the previous owner got a bondo job done to it. And not a very good one. Yours is like, the way ALL body work should be done.

OOH! And you're in Richmond. I lived there for 5 years. I miss it. :( Great work on your car and sweet color. I may see about paying you to do something similar to mine, seeing as you're so nearby.

P.S. The abandoned overgrown parking lot in your signature looks like this one off of ... I think it was Brook Rd. on the North side of Richmond. Always looked like there was supposed to be some sort of mall there, but there wasn't. Either that, or any number of abandoned shopping centers on the South Side off of 360.

[suprapenguin101]

Im going to have to replace my 1/4 panels soon on both sides of my 84 and im wondering if the panels from crosscanadaparts go all the way to the door jam or pretty close?

[Yotaholic]

I still have them in a box so I can dig em out and post some pics for ya. I believe they do go all the way to the door but pics will give you a better idea. They are in fact L type so a little tweeking to get the flares back in place but not a big deal. I 'll do it tomorrow for ya !!

[Yotaholic]

Well here ya go I hope it helps!!!
It's about an 1/8 or 1/4 " from the door .
BTW this is my parts car now so no i'm not tring to rebuild this poor fella gotta keep it might need that hardtop someday ;)

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/Yotaholic/PICT0005-1.jpg

[suprapenguin101]

sweet thanks man

[Yotaholic]

Beer break so I thought I would add an update . The panels are on and I wish I could say it was a perfect fit with no issues but thats not that case so here the skinny

rear line along moulding was off on one fender

rear contour should be in not out on the bottom to match bumper profile

flare install will take some effort but not too bad.. drill and screw and Kbox has the trim

the top of the panel has too much of a bow so you will have to pound on that for a while if you want it to look right but again it isn't way off just needs a little help to match correctly.

feels like 20 guage or 22 g so very light sheetmetal be careful not to warp it

use a panel crimper to join panels before welding

Well thats it the rest is up to you on bodywork and how well you can hide the truth :D Personally I use short strand kitty hair as a base and then a light skim with filler . It prevents cracking and sure helps with hiding shitty welds :rolleyes: Verdict is get them while you can because if you had to start from scratch you had better be damn good with sheetmetal and have lots of spare time . I'll update before and after the paint flies could be another few weeks as I still have some work to do on the panels ...and moonroof wiring etc etc :door:
Some of us with the rusties will have to first make something to weld to :duh:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/Yotaholic/PICT0243.jpg
don't try and run a bead when installing panels !! First tack along the entire panel 3 or 4"'s apart to avoid warping .
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/Yotaholic/PICT0246.jpg
At this point you have to wonder how in the hell is this going to look good !!
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/Yotaholic/cuut.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/Yotaholic/PICT0240.jpg
Kitty hair and a board file get you to this stage and now it's filler time to take care of any scratch marks and inperfections .
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/Yotaholic/PICT0357.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/Yotaholic/PICT0359.jpg

I hate bodywork so have a stab at my welds or at my car but I hope this helps someone wondering if they actually fit and let them know that the 1/4's can be an aternative to feeding our cars to the crushers because of rust . Good luck with your projects mine is finally getting close . Cheers !!

[mkIIsgivemewood]

Please give me hope and tell me you are not a professional. I can't swing the 4 grand it will take to completely straighten mine out by a professional, so I have made the (probably stupid) decision to try to replace the rear qtr myself after I get the frame straightened.

[Angkistrodon]

Post a pic of how it looks now.

[ridenflats]

Where did you find the rear quarter panel?

[Angkistrodon]

I cut it off a 80's celica in the U-PIK-IT yard. $70.00 for the panel and a full set of seats.

[doug82supra]

Holy thread rivival, but what type of welder did you use? Just wondering if it was a straight-up arc welder or something fancier (mig or tig)

I know nothing about welding, but 1\4 replacement is in the cards on a used sup I'm eyeballing. Will be second car.

[Yotaholic]

Post a pic of how it looks now.

Better late then never I suppose .. heres the end result . They aren't perfect and they take some work but in the end it's worth it if you don't have a perfect Supra .

Doug , I used a Mig with Co2 and a shit load of wire on my car so just take your time and complete one job at a time . Good luck and keep us posted :D

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/Yotaholic/DSC01980.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/Yotaholic/DSC01983.jpg

[SlapFunkWarrior]

hell yeah man..... cant even tell it was done. looks real nice,mmmmkay!

[Angkistrodon]

Yes very nice.....I ended up with alot of pinholes in the damn mud, had to fix them later.

[GA61XX]

I'm also in the middle of a 1/4 panel job on my 84. I just ordered 2 new 1/4 panels from Cross Canada Body Parts. The application is 82 -85 celica..part #'s 814650f-1 and 814650f-2 ...cost is between 86.00 and 170 depending on if your a dealer or if your forced to pay list price. The rear 1/4 's are the same on the celica so they will work just fine. I'm new to the site and very glad to see so many people share my passion for Supra's. I will post some pics of the panels when they arrive and juring installation. Website is www.crosscanadaparts.com

Here are the Toyota part numbers

MA61, GA61. R/H rear 1/4 :- # 61601-1B190
With antena :- #61601-1B210
With over fender/flair :- # 61601-1B220
With antena & flair :- # 61601-1B420

MA61, GA61. L/H rear 1/4 :- #61602-14850
With over fender/flair :- # 61602-14860

i don't know if we can still buy these.. But if you can, let me know as i need a R/H 61601-1B190 for my GA61..

cheers

[Dave_Cod]

Even tho' the rear quarter is not a "bolt on piece" I've been told that there are aftermarket(??) rear quarter panels that you can buy (at least for other vehicles(??)).

Was this a "new" rear quarter panel that U bought or U cut a good one off another car??

If U could answer this please as at some point I've got to do the same thing for the driver's rear quarter of Car #5.

Thanks,

Dave

[Dave_Cod]

Never mind...this post just popped up above mine and answered my question.

Thanks,

D

[RedMkII]

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[Erick561]

went on http://www.crosscanadaparts.com/ didn't see celica or supra for 82-85 are they not making qtr panels anymore? where else can i get them? my 84's 1/4 panels are bad.

[mnlcooper]

Do you know of a common rusting problem in the rear fenders, just under the rear speakers? If so how can I fix it.

[Donn29]

Do you know of a common rusting problem in the rear fenders, just under the rear speakers? If so how can I fix it.

You need to 'just fix it'. If you don't know how you need to learn about bodywork in general.

[moonpie33]

or sell your car
they dont sale quarter panels for ptypes you have to cut one up

[Donn29]

or sell your car
they dont sale quarter panels you have to cut one up
cooper research body work

Um, slooow down guy.... L Type panels are still available, heck info on them is likely in THIS THREAD. There is not too much work involved in mounting a fender flare to fit on a L Type panel, that is if you can manage to weld it in well enough you'll figure that out!

Not only that but he's talking about the inner fender, which is totally different.

[moonpie33]

opps fixed it
bondo

[brandon82mk2]

i am going to do the same thing to my car this winter. theres a pick and pull with 3 p types with perfect bodies

[Michael764]

what did you weld it on, with? mig

[pimptrizkit]

freakin awsome love you are saving your car.

[GA61XX]

Um, slooow down guy.... L Type panels are still available, heck info on them is likely in THIS THREAD. There is not too much work involved in mounting a fender flare to fit on a L Type panel, that is if you can manage to weld it in well enough you'll figure that out!

Not only that but he's talking about the inner fender, which is totally different.


sorry to dig up an old thread....

But it says that you can still get the "L" type rear 1/4's

Q:- Where, & how much....?? i need a R/H rear 1/4 for my GA61....

any help will be good

thank you..

[Rich64N]

Cross Canada had them on their website until 1-2 years ago. They are not on their website anymore (was actually Celica rear QTR Panels = L-Type Celica Supra). You can try contacting them so see if they have any left - their URL is in previous posts, but they NO LONGER list them as something they stock.

[kid twist 84]

(was actually Celica rear QTR Panels = L-Type Celica Supra)

Just to be clear here -
Celica GT = L-Type Supra
Celica GT-S = P-Type Supra
rear quarter panels, fronts clearly different for both

[X-Factor001]

This is what I had originally.....every now and then I would spray some undercoat or something on it to make it look like I was working on it.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/Angkistrodon/quater/f9dbc58d.jpg

Ahahahahahaha! Thats actually kind of awesome!

[EvilMonkeyz]

lol I really enjoyed that you put this up, it gave me the enthusiasm to actually restore my car. The hardest part for me was actually finding the quarters panels from a donor car that was close to where i lived. Mines an 84 and the front bumper was trashed, and the only one i could find to replace it was an 83 like yours lol. not my favorite, i prefer the way the turn signals wrap around on the 84's and up, but it gets the job done.

[EvilMonkeyz]

http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1515
Here a collage of what i ended up doing to my car. in case anyone was wondering. lol

[Dave_Cod]

Sweet, ....I'd be proud too, LOL...

I wish I knew how to Weld...might take a course on it at some point but ya gotta be good to do that kinda work...Don't wanna be "learnin" on a Supra, LOL

Cut off both Qtrs off my very first original car...just gotta get someone to do as awesome a job welding one side in to one of my cars that gonna be a Turbo...definitely want to have that lookin' like Urs

Cheers, man

[Omg ninja]

are there any places that sell or makeFiberglass rear quarters?

[rhartmaier]

OK, I'll keep it alive. Is that a factory blue color?