Miro Stp1

[rsdeo]

Possible wheel combination if you upgrade to MPV disc with Nissan caliper. Front will be really close to the strut. Would like to try a set see how well they would fit. Nice for Ltypes.

Front:16x7.5 ET30 4x100/114.3
Rear:16x9 ET15 4x100/114.3

Email them, info@mirowheels.com and ask about other offsets.

http://www.ngpracing.com/store/images/detailed_images/detailed_image_3790.jpg

http://images42.fotki.com/v1376/photos/7/704725/5384311/MiRo_STP1_810_S_4009_s-vi.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/jazzblue20th/wheels/Wheels003-1.jpg

[dmlsupra]

do you know if they are available in 17''?

[Sean Chung]

Those are resonably priced. I just looked up the specs, though, and the center bore is 57.1, so the centers would have to be bored out, or spacers used to make them fit.

[SupraFiend]

thats not that big of a deal, then they'd actually be hubcentric too. Got a link? A set of the 16x9s all the way around with some spacers in the rear would work well on a PType.

[Austin E]

Bump.
Considering putting my black 002's on Jessie's car and buying some of these wheel's in 16x9 +15, as I think they will flow better with the new paint and look of my car. And the price is excellent.
Questions:
Boring out the center requires what, and how much of a hassle is it, just making the center big enough to fit onto the wheel hub? I don't want to have to run spacer's on the front. Running them on the rear is alright, as I really like how they look.

Will 245/45/16's fit well enough on a 16x9 wheel? I absolutely hate the stupid vip/stretched tire look and will boycott the whole idea if that's how they would look.

Also, I won't be keeping the centers polished. They will receive the same jet black paint that is going on my car.

Total for 4 16x9 or 16x7.5 is $875 here for me local. So while double the price of my sportmax, I think they look twice as good.

[moonpie33]

Austin, streched tires look good on SOME cars.
look at suprademons car

[Austin E]

Personally I think his car looks terrible, and needs tires that actually fit the wheel. Stretched tires, have no functional benefit: some people just think it's cool or in or some other crap. I like my tires to fit my wheels, provide the most traction possible, and look good, in that order, which vip/stretch/drifto crap does not provide.

[moonpie33]

Austin
Your totally right about wanting the wheels to provide maximum traction
but when a tire is stretched more "tire" is actually on the road.

plus it is somthing people donot see everyday
so its unique.

[Austin E]

Austin
Your totally right about wanting the wheels to provide maximum traction
but when a tire is stretched more "tire" is actually on the road.

plus it is somthing people donot see everyday
so its unique.

Sure, but no matter how much you stretch a 205/215/225 tire, it's not going to have a bigger contact area then a 245 or wider tire.

Regardless, that's not what I bumped this thread for.

[Road Ripper]

I've seen videos on YouTube on how to make the center hole bigger. The minitruck guys have to do that to the Cadillac Escalade rims to make them fit. The process involves a router, a special metal-cutting bit with a pilot bearing on the end, and a firm grip. Hope this helps you out, and nice choice of rim!

[SupraFiend]

A 245 won't be stretched on a 9 inch wheel. Thats actually the stock size combination on the back of a stock mk4 na. 16x9 with 245/55-16 tires...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/thedarcsage2/DSCN0153.jpg

You will be running two profiles shorter of course so the width will be a little less but it will look much better then a 55 series on a 9. Possibly a touch of stretch depending on the brand of tire (some are wider then others) but not enough to give the look your trying to avoid. It will probably look just like my 225s on an 8 inch wheel in 15 inch....

http://www.pbase.com/suprafiend/image/83287293

I am with you on the stretched tire look but there is actually a performance advantage for drifting. You get less shoulder wear if the tires are stretched as the tires can't roll over on themselves. However tires are made to be mounted with square shoulders, you give up a little grip if they're pulled too much.

I would take the fronts to a machine shop to have them bored out. I assume your getting 16x9s all the way around and putting them on a P Type? You running camber plates or celica gts steering arms by chance?

[Austin E]

I am with you on the stretched tire look but there is actually a performance advantage for drifting. You get less shoulder wear if the tires are stretched as the tires can't roll over on themselves. However tires are made to be mounted with square shoulders, you give up a little grip if they're pulled too much.

I would take the fronts to a machine shop to have them bored out. I assume your getting 16x9s all the way around and putting them on a P Type? You running camber plates or celica gts steering arms by chance?

Well, I don't drift, so no worries there. Also yes, 85 p-type.

Do only the fronts have to be bored out?

Yes, 16x9's all the way around, with the 245/45 toyo proxes t1r.
I have the K-mac stage 1 camber/caster plates, ground control coilovers with 350# springs, and kyb's up front.

How will having celica gts steering arms effect having these wheels?

Thanks so much Seamus.

Austin

[SupraFiend]

I'm just trying to get a sense of what your front spacing clearance is like on your car. Since you have camber plates, you probably run a little more then stock camber on the street (which is a good idea if you don't, stock mk2s will eat the outer edges of the front tires if you drive the car fairly hard often). A little more camber will give you a bit more front spacing, as do the celica gts steering arms. 16x9 +15 is going to be very close to the max fitment you want on the front, but depends on how much camber you run. You may be able to get a spacer in there without ruining the fitment and then you wouldn't need to bore out the wheels, but I'm guessing it may be too close for that. Still, get your camber settings dialed in now (if they're not already) and test out the wheels when you get them before you have them modified.

You will want a bolt on spacer for the rear to make the fitment match the front, again you'll want to get them on the car before you decide on how thick. If you're going to have any of them modified, might as well get them all done so you can rotate your wheels front to back.

Just keep in mind before you do this that wide, low profile 16 inch sizes are being fazed out right now. 245/45-16 pricing and selection has never been great, and its going to get alot worse.

[Austin E]

I would love to get 17's. But the selection for our car, in my price range >$1000, is limited, and I hate the rb-r, banana spoke type wheels. I don't even like the 002's that much, but I chose the lesser of two uglies. If I could find a nice looking mesh type 17 with decent offset I would definitely go for that, but as you know, that's not really an option as of now.

I have contacted toyo, and they said they have no intentions of killing off the t1r's any time soon. Not sure if you've ever used them, but they're amazing.

Boring the wheels is not a problem for me at all. My good friend is a professional fabricator, and does amazing work, and has pretty much an entire machine shop in his shop at home. Lathe, drill press, and a bunch of other stuff I don't know how to work lol.

I will have all four bored out, as rotating is required for me.

Thanks again Seamus.
Austin

[SupraFiend]

No prob. The T1rs will be around for awhile, and they'll get replaced by another similar line at some point, but the question is how long will 245/45-16s be around. Probably for the next 5 years I'd say, but I'm always thinking long term with these cars. But T1rs are nice tires, should give you some wicked grip.