Finaly revealing my UZA65 project

[rwdfreak]

Since I got some progress and now that I need help from everyone I can find to sort all kind of piping, wiring, relocating, etc stuff I feel it's the time to show you guys some pictures.

I got the perfect donnor for my swap in september 2008. My friend sold his LS400 with around 180 k miles with a good engine and most of the part functionning (even the A/C is still Ice cold) to me (1200$ for a complete running car with good wheels was definatly a steal). I managed to get 600$ back from selling miscelanious parts.

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So here is the engine in all it's glory
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To replace this little thing:

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Then I got the engine out and removed all the parts I wanted to keep before selling the shell to a guy for a 100$

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Durring the 2008-09 winter, I cleaned, painted/polished as much part as possible, rebuilded the starter and deleted all the uneeded wires in the harness.

Cleaned harness
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Starter removal (yeah I know!!!)
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Before
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After (I know the lower end is still dirty)
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Passenger side cams
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Driver's (I don't know why it isn't the same color and it's not due to lighting)
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[rwdfreak]

Then durring last summer (2009) I got all the needed parts together and mated the transmission to the engine. The clutch is the feramic 6 puck kit for 7M-GE/2JZ-GE from Raptorracing, the trow out bearing is from Howe and is for a muncie/saginaw and jeep transmission pn 82870 and the adapter was modified from Ed Oats drawing.

As a side note the ring gear did mate the flywheel pretty well as it was. All I did was heating the ring gear for a while with a acetylene Torch, maybe a bit too high in temp, and it slid easely on the flywheel. After it colled down a bit (just to have a slight interference) I put it on a hand press and pressed down the ring gear to "un-warp" the ring gear. As it is right now it's 100% flat and the starter turn smoothly on all 360degrees.

I did the adapter on a CNC. Everything lined up pretty well except I needed to remove 2 bolts from the tranny and grind a hole on the bellhousing to use all the input shaft plates to tranny bolts. The adapter was about 1mm too thin and the bellhousing hit a small portion of the input shaft plate. I gave that one to my friend who's doing the same thing in a MA61 in exchange of an EGR pipe, power steering hoses and future consideration.

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Then the second version
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The cylinder guide (I made it waaaayyy overkill)
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The hydraulic line setup (which was a nightmare to figure).

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Little pocket on the bellhousing
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Fiting the clutch and trow out
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Everything bolted together
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After that I removed the A/C compressor by finding the apropriate belt lenght (Dayco 5060635 for anyone interested).
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And finaly just lately

I got the 22re engine out
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Cleaned the engine bay
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And...

[rwdfreak]

Well after hitting every portion of the engine/transmission everywhere in the engine bay and trans tunnel, I finaly get an idea of the chalenge that it'll be to make it run.

First here's a list of what will need to be relocated (and that would have been a good idea to remove prior to dropping the engine in) :faceslap:

-Exhaust manifold (at least the driver side). I knew I was forgeting something when I raised the engine.
-Engine mount (I wanted to see how far they would come to fit with factory crossmember) It turned out it was nowere near.
-Charcoal canister. I will need to find a new home (why the hell those things are so huge and look that ugly?)
-heater core temperature selector (how the hell do you take the semi rigid hose out?)
-Proportionning valve (this is at the moment what is holding me from backing the engine an other inch). I don't know yet were I'll be able to relocate it.
-Steering rack hose (take the 2 screw holding the cooling loop on the rack and toss it. The 2 rigid line on the rack would be better if they were taken appart and the holes were plugged with appropriate plastic cap.
-Sway bar. Remember that Whiteline 27mm sway bar you bought? Well it's useless now since the oil pan is so freakin big that I don't see much how I can recycle it. I will probably get a Camaro rear bar like the M engine guys. Anyone want a used whiteline sway bar?

So now it's close to where it should go and to my suprise aside form the proportionning valve, there's nothing hitting elsewhere. The tunnel is big enough, the booster clear and the passenger side exhaust as more room then there was on the LS400. I have at least 3.5inch between the head and the strut tower. The engine now can barely move because of various factor. The next step is to make engine mount without having a welder next to the car. The owner of the warehouse won't let me weld because there's no insurance cover for that. So now I need to make some sort of cardboard/wood mockup and make back and forth modifications with the steel version while living 2.5 hours away from this warehouse.

Something tells me the hardest part is to come

Well anyway enjoy the pics

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Look like it belongs there
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[7mgt-66e]

Great to hear you're going at it. This way I have some info when I do mine. I found something you may want.

http://forums.toyotacressida.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59681

Get it.

[moonpie33]

pmd on the whiteline sway bar :)

[rwdfreak]

Great to hear you're going at it. This way I have some info when I do mine. I found something you may want.

http://forums.toyotacressida.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59681

Get it.

I need to be logged in don't you mind sending me by pm the content of it?

moonpie33 I don't really want to sell it until everything is sorted out in the engine bay. When I'll get the Camaro bar in place I'll let you know. Also there's an other guy on Celica-gts that was first to ask so he get the first bid. Thanks for your interest.

[Donn29]

Nice swap. Custom brake line routing! Sounds like FUN!

Always like you car at the meets, but thought it looked faster then was. I guess you'll have that problem fixed!

[7mgt-66e]

Here it is.

Spent the larger part of last year paying this puppy of only to dicide not to use it..Kit includes well over 5K of near new gear including .

Eaton M90 SC with valves fitted and 10psi pulley
Adaptor plate
Manifold for 1UZ
Larger TB
Gaskets

$3250

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[RedP85]

Impressive in that smaller engine bay.
Go are getting it closer to run now, but as you said, you stll have to make it run...

Great job so far Max !

[rwdfreak]

Spent the larger part of last year paying this puppy of only to dicide not to use it..Kit includes well over 5K of near new gear including .

Eaton M90 SC with valves fitted and 10psi pulley
Adaptor plate
Manifold for 1UZ
Larger TB
Gaskets

$3250


Tempting but I neither have the money or time to play with that kind of mod (ECU tuning/piggyback/standalone, fuel supply and miscelanious stuff). The only thing I want for now is make it run with the factory ECU and everything stock. Since I know the engine was running fine when it was in the LS400 it'll be easier to trouble shoot any kind of engine failure then having an whole different setup. Also I don't have a job right now so I get plenty of time, but no extra $$$. I'm still not sure which route I'll take when I'll have the engine rebuilded in a couple of years (the engine is fine put will need a rebuild anyway). I'm not looking to make that much power as I'll start breaking other parts around and twist the chassis. 300hp 300tq at the wheel would be more than enough and I'm sure I could do that N/A easely. I'm looking more for driveability than maximum output.

Thanks for the input

[rwdfreak]

Nice swap. Custom brake line routing! Sounds like FUN!

Hey Donn what going on? I didn't saw you last year at the meet everything going well?

I might save some time and cutting by simply positionning it at an other angle higher on the firewall. I would need to unbend the two comming from the master and reroute the one going to the passenger caliper. The only one that could need an extension is the one going to the rear. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.


Always like you car at the meets, but thought it looked faster then was. I guess you'll have that problem fixed!

If the car is running by Toronto I'll give you a ride so you can testify :naughty:

[Donn29]

Sweet. I was there, but the 7M swap and new ebay rad was causing some overheating. I chilled at Deans rather than go on the long travel sections. Hoping to fix that this year so I can actually fully do all the cruises.

[the ghoul]

looks great man!

I noticed you had the wrap taken off the engine harness.... whats up with that?
did you eliminate the auto wire or just trying to figgure out where every thing goes?

[rwdfreak]

Both!! I took all the uneeded wires off and rewired some of them. I also identified all the wires one by one at both ends with tapes and tested all the circuit for continuity. I'm not sure if I did the right thing because if I did something wrong it will be a nightmare to trouble shoot, but the harness is clean now. I'd say it has close to half of the wires it used to have.

[the ghoul]

Both!! I took all the uneeded wires off and rewired some of them. I also identified all the wires one by one at both ends with tapes and tested all the circuit for continuity. I'm not sure if I did the right thing because if I did something wrong it will be a nightmare to trouble shoot, but the harness is clean now. I'd say it has close to half of the wires it used to have.

LOL
same fear im having with mine!!!
yeah ill be doing the same before i install *eliminating the unneeded wires*
Tell ya what, i did that with the car harness, after i took out the auto ac, and cruse and the harnesses must be half as thick now!

[rwdfreak]

Updates!!

Guess what. It apears that the Celica is a better candidate for a 1UZ swap after all. Just by taking the proportionning valve out and by tossing the heater hoses I managed to bolt the transmission right where it should go without any modification. The shifter position is perfect and the engine could no be at a better place. The passenger side head does rub on the firewall, but I found out I could remove the plate so it wont rub as long as I don't use the harness plastic case.

No need for a custom driveshaft now.

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The engine does sit at an angle (tilted backward) though but it isn't that much and I can't do anything about it. I can't see how it would be an issue.

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Next thing is gonna be engine mount then it will be hose relocation and routing (heater, radiator, gas, power steering, proportionning valve). After that I'll start the wiring and get a custom exhaust done by a local shop.

I'm really happy of what was accomplished yet, but I know there's still a lot of things to do.

[the ghoul]

I'm really happy of what was accomplished yet, but I know there's still a lot of things to do.
just so sick that your shifter is dead nuts center in the opening!
good job there mang!!!

[bigpanda16]

you, sir are a good man
nice to see swaps like this being done.
here i was thinking i was a freak for buying a $500 ls400 while owning a 83 celica coupe w a toasted 375,xxx mile 22r.
keep up the good work

[rwdfreak]

Glad you guys like it. When I started to look for the swap not many people had done it. It's been at least 4 years since I started gattering informations. This swap seems to gain in popularity. I say it's a good thing for performance part and support, but I hope it doesn't get too popular (I wouldn't be the only one in a 1000miles radius with a V8 Celica lol).

bigpanda now you know what to do with those two!

[rwdfreak]

I finaly bolted that sucker to the custom made engine mount. Doing them was a pain since I could not weld in the warehouse (insurance). Engine is centered and only a 1/4inch away from the crossmember and steering rack.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd266/Durdley/MAX%20v8/DSC08688.jpg

I need to customise the power steering plumbing to get more space. So far I can fit a 2.5inch can between the frame and the shaft but no room for play. I plan to use 2 inch piping anyway, 1/4" on each side should be enough.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd266/Durdley/MAX%20v8/DSC08705.jpg

Now I fear for hood clearance. Next week I'll do a test fit with the hood on.
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If the hood doesn't clear I'll buy an other one (probably not as clean) to modify and go extreme with vent and all that kind of stuff.

I solved the proportionning valve, by untwisting and rebending two of them and cuting/flaring the 2 other. Now I need to make some sort of bracket to hold it stiff.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd266/Durdley/MAX%20v8/DSC08678.jpg

There's still a lot to do, but most pieces of the puzzle are falling into place.

Cheer

[Donn29]

Did you put the valve on the firewall? Nice.

[rwdfreak]

Well the valve is only about 2 inch away from its previous location. I did not made the braket yet and I'm trying to find a good way to attach it to the firewall. At least it's out of the way and the car has brake.

Still lot of things to do. This week I'm getting the power steering hoses done andI'll try to figure the rad setup. I'll probably end up using a MKIII Supra rad or if it's wide enough a 240SX's.

I should be able to bring the car home next week-end or the first week end of august. Then I'll work full time on the car to make it run.

[rwdfreak]

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Well I towed the car last week end and spent a lot of time on it this week. Progress are slow but steady. I'm almost done with component relocation and hooking all of the hose/vaccum to the car.

I still need to buy/figure
-Front (rear Camaro) sway bar (I have not been able to find one in any junker/classified)
-Oil filter, by it's location I stronly beleive I'll have no choice but to use a relocating kit.
-Rad hose, somehow the hose are bigger on the 1UZ than on the Celica rad (yes I'm planing to keep it and soon upgrading to a 2 row). I don't realy know where I could get prebent rad hose except asking to go in the back store at the local part store. Space is tight.
-Freaking power steering hose (pressure). Everytime I screw up on those custom line I have a 50miles trip back and forth to have it modified. I screwed up on the lenght of the back portion of the Celica power steering line. It's 6 inch too long :wall:
-Exhaust. I think it's gonna be a hell of a lot easier than I thought. Since I don't have a good mig and my skill are limited I will probably tack portion of the exhaust together and have it professionaly welded after.
-I won't be able to use the strut tower bar in its actual form. I will need to bend it in two direction in order to clear the hood and the engine and maybe add more stifness (as the bend will take away some). I've almost found one yesterday from my friend's 95 Corolla, but the bar is lined up with the trottle boddy vacuum lines.

When I'll be done with the back of the engine I'll put the engine harness on and reconnect everything. Then it will be a matter of sourcing the wires on the car to make the engine run.

I can already hear the sweet melody of a 1UZ burning rubber :mellow:

LS400 pusher fans and the silver tube is the return of the power steering that I fixed with factory holes and clamps.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e44/rwdfreak/Project%20UA65/DSCN0228.jpg

Heater hose, heater valve, EGR pipe, fuel lines, Brake lines, porportionning valve and many more. The firewall is crowded but everything seem to be ok. The hot stuff is far enough from the fuel lines and EGR pipe is far enough from anything that could melt or burn.
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Exhaust on passenger side (need to be modified in order to make more clearence for the clutch hose , fuel line and speedo cable). This shoul be done simply by cutting the flang and put a pipe (smooth S bend) about 12inch long.

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Driver side manifold. This will require more work as the pipe was made to go between the engine and the steering box, but in my case I want it between the steering box and the frame. However there's more room than I expected.
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Air flow meter is bolted (and polished :yes:). I had to swap exchange my K&N filter for a unknown Reactive like Air filter that I had on my truck because the K&N was too long. I will get a better filter eventualy.
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How things are comming alone.
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The more I think of it the more I beleive this engine was made to go there (and what Toyota should have done form factory)


BTW for those guys also on Supraquebec: keep the secret I want to make a big suprise at the next meet.

[SupraFiend]

That engine didn't exist when that car was made :p

Lookin good, getting close!

[rwdfreak]

Well this is the most recent update.

Every step I make forward I need to make one or two back

-Power steering: Done
-Radiator: Done
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I picked this used Koyo rad with a Derale 16" fan from a SR20 powered S13 240SX for an amazing deal. I'm really happy of how it turned out.

-Exhaust: 99% Done on my side (it's being professionaly welded). I also need to weld 3 O2 bungs
-Wiring: 95% Done (Need to wire the sub O2 sensors, wire the electric fan probe and manual switch and wire the A/F gauge)

However I came to the conclusion that my clutch is leaking due to improper torque in the connection (I only need to hold the line inside the bellhousing, but have no access). I might make an access port, but taking the transmission and/or engine (since there isn't much space to pull the transmission back and disengage the input shaft) is probably the only good way (to really source the problem and clean everything in there).

I'm almost ready to fire it up. I instaled new plugs and wire to make sure it purr like a kitty.

A big big thank you to my buddy Frank (the guy with a white UZ'd MA61) who did a 200miles trip to come help me do the manifolds.

Driver side manifold (need to remove the lower portion of the intermediate shaft to put it there)
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Passenger side manifold (lots of space, but will need a thermal shield plate to protect the clutch line, fuel lines and the speedo cable)
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Speed bump and parking ramp are my new worst enemies.
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The exhaust system is far from being perfect, but I think it should not be any worst than the factory one. I'm proud of what I've accomplished there because this is the first exhaust system I've ever made and I think it look pretty damn good. It's budget exhaust using what I already had on the car and parts I took of the LS donor. Mainly it's stock diameter from the manifolds to the stock cats and then it's 1 7/8" ID up to the Y. After the Y it's a 2.5" OD pipe up to a matching Dynomax exhaust. According to my friend Frank I will need a resonator of some sort because on his Supra he say it's loud as hell (and the only difference is that his piping is 3inch reducing to a twin tip 2.5" magnaflow muffler. Cops are ass around here and I don't want to draw too much attention. However I cannot see exactly where I could put a resonator. Maybe a glaspack before the final muffler or a longer body muffler will be mandatory.

thanks for the comment and support.

[eurokevin]

looking good

[CelicaDrifts]

that is soooooo sexual, love it!!!
good luck with the build

[rwdfreak]

Thanks guys! Comments like this help me go back to work. Having the recongnition from people who works as hard as I do on their projects pushes me to do more.

[rwdfreak]

IT STARTED!!!

It started on the second try (yesterday I tryed, but I could not get fire). It turned up to be a missing +12V from the EFI fuse I forgot to wire. It ran for a good minute. I've checked for code and there was none. I could not make it run because I did not put the radiator back and I beleive there's a fuel leak around the damper. I also need to fix comple of things to the chassis or away of the exhaust manifolds.

Vid is crappy, but this is the very first start of this engine in that car. (Ignore the french comment). Whit no catback and multiple exhaust leak it sounds like a freaking Nascar.

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[the ghoul]

Great job man!!! I'm so happy for you!
Ready to see the wreckage that is Detroit and come help me?
I'm just now running wire for mine. Btw; what were the specks on your custom power steering hoses, and u think you could have another set made for me?

[rwdfreak]

what were the specks on your custom power steering hoses, and u think you could have another set made for me?
I guess you are asking for the pressurized hose only. In short it's the factory LS400 power steering hose which was cut at the end of the rubber hose just before it make a sharp 90 degree bend to entire the LS400 power steering. Than I took the Celica factory hose which feature a loop behind the crossmember and cutted it somewere near the front. I said "custom" but it's more like a "frankenstein". I got some hose fitting crimped at a local hydraulic store.

Now the question is why should you bother? The supra power steering hose is already going to the passenger side. My Buddy frank used the factory supra hose on his swap. I had to modify mine since the Celica power steering pump is on the driver side. The other advantage of using the Lexus hose is that it bolts on the engine around the oil pan and then is pre-bent to go around the oil filter. Mostly it look like factory.



Ready to see the wreckage that is Detroit and come help me?
I wish I had the time for that. I still have a shitload of stuff to do on that car (Kaminary body kit is on the list) and after that I have a set of Coilovers to install on my dad's RX300 and then a transmission swap on his Supra. An somewhere in all those things I need to help a friend with his audio setup inclueding a custom interior replacing the rear seats.

But I'm whilling to help you at distance. I'll type my personnal notes on the wirring. It's pretty much stupid proof, but that is because I previously had deleted all ECT TRAC related wires.

If you need anything send me a PM. My good buddy Frank should also be of help. He just finished his swap in his MKII.

[the ghoul]

Thankyou so very much sir! I will have to Take a closer look at the ps lines before bugging you any more on that...

I've got my harness about half installed; I'll give it a shot and see where it goes but I will most likely be contacting you for assistance.

I just can't wait to see you successfully finish this!

[Dragon72076]

glad to see that im not the only one to not be satisfied by the 22re by the way is that a ra64 or a ra65

[rwdfreak]

Honnestly for the time and money spent, just trow a GT28 on your 22RE with a mild cam and a standalone and you'll get more power. I've sunk around 3 grand for the swap and I'm not counting any of my time, fuel and service I owe to friends how helped me and I shouldn't get more than 190whp out of it.

I did that more for the bling factor and mostly futur potential of the engine than intitial power itself. It was also a chalenge to prove myself I could do it. This engine cost at least twice as much as a 22RE to get power out of it until around 300whp (after that it's an other thing) and probably 4time compared to a 1JZ-2JZ engine up to around 600whp. After that you get in the zone where all engine needs forged parts and big turbo setups and the final bill look identical.

If you got 1G-GTE in your country I'd suggest going for that aswell, but the 22RE shouldn't be trown away yet. Just turbo it.

Of course there's the sound and the attention it draws

[Supra_devil]

Honnestly for the time and money spent, just trow a GT28 on your 22RE with a mild cam and a standalone and you'll get more power. I've sunk around 3 grand for the swap and I'm not counting any of my time, fuel and service I owe to friends how helped me and I shouldn't get more than 190whp out of it.


my friend did a 22rte, cam, gt28 and MS....and he said if he had to start again he would have swapped in another motor and started with a motor that wasn't a truck motor.

1uz is a nice base with lots of potential, but i'll admit its not cheap to mod.

[Dragon72076]

I already have the 2jz-ge in there I'm just in the middle of finishing it and will have a write up soon to come. The 22re is already in the hands of its new owner.

[the ghoul]

Of course there's the sound and the attention it draws

darn right!!
:bannanahu

[rwdfreak]

Supra_devil you are absolutely right. The 22re isn't the best engine to start with, but I was more refering to the time/budget VS power. I swapped the 1UZ because I knew it could make past 250whp with factory ECU and bottom end. All this engine need is better cams and shorter intake runner. Add nice headers and a free flow exhaust and you just got yourself a 13 second car for around 5 grand. Or instal a M90 blower and you should get in the 12's. But it takes waaaaaaay more time to swap.

BTW dragon it is a RA65



I did a quick drive around the block and I got stumped. This engine is supposed to make around 170-190whp, but it felt like a hell more to me and my buddy.

The vids aren't the greatess and it doesn't really feel like it, but it sure pulls hard. I'm a bit unconfortable with the clutch and I was keeping the revs below 5k rpm's to avoid any bad things. The clutch is brand new and the engine sat for over a year and a half so I don't to be too hard on it for a while. There's a strange winning comming from the engine but I'm guessing that the power steering system isn't fully bled and the multiple exhaust leaks are killing me (good ol budget exhaust made out of recycled part from the LS).

Again vid is crappy and exhasut still leak from everywhere, but it hauls a lot more then I expected. Just mash the gas in second at 3000rpm and it just start pulling hard and get better and better until you shift the other gear or realise you're doing 50mph in a 30mph area.

More vid to come as soon as I fix the exhaust and get the interior back together.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e44/rwdfreak/Project%20UA65/th_DSCN0363.jpg (http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e44/rwdfreak/Project%20UA65/?action=view&current=DSCN0363.flv)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e44/rwdfreak/Project%20UA65/th_DSCN0364.jpg (http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e44/rwdfreak/Project%20UA65/?action=view&current=DSCN0364.flv)

[SupraFiend]

These make 190rwhp with the stock autoslush box, manual is another matter. My buddy on DK just dynoed the one in his corolla. Stock motor, stock tune, stock ps with custom headers, exhaust, and intake pipe\filter and he's putting down 250hp to the wheels and 270lbs/ft.

And now he's turboing it lol.

[rwdfreak]

Suprafriend, your buddy must have a newer version of the 1UZ. On a 89-94 engine I've seen most figure around 190whp with stock manifold style and exhaust size no matter what transmission was on. I'd be happy if mine dyno anywhere between 170 and 200whp as it has a respectable 180 k miles on the clock and a budget exhaust. It isn't much on the maximum output, but on response and low/mid torque. I intend to enter in time attack races with that little baby and it should be really enjoyable on a short track. On the other hand fuel consumption should be acceptable if I don't floor it too much.

Here are the dyno chart for a similar setup but with much better exhaust system and kelford cam model 207-S1. I've read that a real 4-1 header alone could add as much as 25whp.
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/733/dynorun23and47ti.jpg
http://lextreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3253

BTW I did 2 other runs today with the exhaust wrap and pretty much every exhaust leak fixed. So far so good everything seems normal except for a slight stutter when I floor it suddenly. Either the fuel pump/line combo isn't ennough to feed the 8 injectors or something in the electronic doesn't like to be floored without warning.

The only leak so far is the power steering, it's only matter of changing the banjo bolt crush washer and a small leak on one of the injector on the driver side bank.

Thanks for the comments.

[SupraFiend]

Nope, its the same gen as yours. He does have custom headers though, like I mentioned.

Also I think you're wrong about the tranny. Theres another fellow here on the forum that did the swap into a mk2. It was auto at first, then he converted to manual and he picked up something like 15-20hp.

As for your fuel issue, are you using a stock Celica gas tank? The feed lines on the fuel pump bracket assembly are a smaller diameter then the ones on the Supras I noticed. Not sure if the fuel lines on the car are smaller too, wouldn't suprise me.

[the ghoul]

Sweeet vids! I can't wait till I can post the same...
I didn't catch what you did *specifically* to the fule lines or throttle cable (they are on my to do list this weekend, and it will be alot easier to have a shopping list before I start working on it)

[rwdfreak]

The stuter is gone. One of the injector was leaking. I pulled the fuel rail switched the injector with an other flipped the side of the insulator going in the manifold and put everything back togheter. Leak is gone and I didn't had any issue afterward.

Suprafriend thank for the comment, but according to this database, the fuel pump and the fuel pump hose are the same as a MA61: http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_U_1985_TOYOTA_CELICA_MA61L-BLMQFK_2211.4.html According to Toyodiy lots of injection components are identical between the Celica and the Celicasupra. Maybe it was upgraded on the latter 85 model with the larse 22RE.

So far I don't see why I should upgrade, but eventualy when I get some performance upgrade I'll replace for the stock LS400 fuel pump. A/F gauge read perfectly fine when running at WOT in higher end.

Still a lot of issues to fix, but it's progressively comming all togheter.

[rwdfreak]

throttle cable (they are on my to do list this weekend, and it will be alot easier to have a shopping list before I start working on it)
I used the LS400 trottle cable. I only had to shave a small aligment pin with a knife on the retainer and it snapped on the Celica gas pedal like it was mean to be. All other fiting are identical. I think my friend on his MKII Supra used the 5M trottle cable. The 22RE cable is about 2 feet too long.

[FranK]

I think my friend on his MKII Supra used the 5M trottle cable. The 22RE cable is about 2 feet too long.



NOPE!

I also used the Ls400 throttle cable and it fitted perfectly whit no modifications.

Mean to be there like you said.

[the ghoul]

Guess I gotta make a trip to the junk yard... I never would have giesssed that would work... My 5m cable is about 4" too short