CF anything?

[SlimFastSupra]

Tell me what you want to see in CF if anything. I have a fabricator willing to listen. We've gone through this before and I have to be honest about what is worth making.

There will be a run of 10 and an 2nd run later in the year and that is it, so we have to choose something that will benefit us and be worth the time to make.

Excluding the hood, what CF product would benefit the MK2 community.

[skip]

hatch...just wishful thinking :D

[Tanya]

hatch definitly
how about a carbon fiber sunroof?
hehe :lol:
CF dashboard, center console
maybe someone can design a cutesy CF spark plug valley cover to hide our little oil pools
:roll: :D

[Felixatvtc]

deffinatly rocker molding. (the molding at the bottom of the door)

[zank]

Here are just some ideas:

how about those plastic headlight covers
or the top cover of the head lights themselves
flares?~? :?
hatch :P (will probably cost an arm and a leg :? )

[BillyM]

How about the headlight whiskers?

--billyM

[dohc82]

Center console including the radio surround(1 or 2 piece)
cam tower valley cover, sun visors, steering wheel center inserts, shift knobs, rear strut tower caps. center caps for stock rims(locking), MK2 keychains in CF would be very cool, rear view mirror, glove box door.

Is that enough CF dreams :?: :lol:

[TRD 83 SUPRA XX]

How about the Carbon Fiber head lite covers oh I know a center console lid cover and how about the hood with the same hole it has now in the center but also exhaust holes one on each side!!!!! 8) 8) 8)

[SlimFastSupra]

Come on guys be serious for 5 minutes...

[TRD 83 SUPRA XX]

I was?

[dohc82]

So was I :?

How about you tell us what the parameters are and then we can give better suggestions :)

[SlimFastSupra]

considering our search for a working center console cover, this seems to be the most popular option.

[TRD 83 SUPRA XX]

considering our search for a working center console cover, this seems to be the most popular option.

See see!!!!!

[Tanya]

c/f custom shift knobs that say "Supra" on them somewhere
:D
yeah let us know what is too outrageous so we can make better suggestions like dohc said, hehe

[SlimFastSupra]

I think we should start small, with something easy to make. No hoods, doors or CF seats....LOL


Something relatively flat and easy to copy.

[Tanya]

hmm how about c/f visors?
*shrug* 1st think I could think of, lol

[1Smooth85]

maybe someone can design a cutesy CF spark plug valley cover to hide our little oil pools
:roll: :D


Hey I have a polished aluminum one in the works as we type. LOL

[Tanya]

oooooooo let me know how that turns out, I'll definitly buy one
*curses the leaky towers*
:)

[AZNinaSUPRA]

i like the idea of a center console. radio surrounding included

[skip]

these 2 sound good

spark plug valley cover
console cover

[Daves2JZGTE]

i think sun roof is a good ez idea no more rust and its pritty flat. How about new door skins for the inside that could be ez flat with mounting holes. I dont know i really like the the idea of the hood and hatch but thats more involved.
O how about a new spare tire cover thats flat . May be something to take the place of the back seet or door sills um running bords a nice cover in the bay that gose over the gap from hood latch to the nose of the car ya know the open area thats infrunt of the rad.
Dave

[KesekiSupra]

cf everything. yes im serious

[Gage006]

i like the idea of a center console. radio surrounding included

agreed. a lot of the ideas mentioned would be very nice. everybody has been serious from what i can tell. you need to give us a better idea of what you're thinking before we can give you "serious" suggestions.

[kato74]

carbon fiber sunroof

[SlimFastSupra]

I'm thinking small items that can be copied.

For example the spark plug cover does not exist so it would then be harder to make.

Maybe someone can bend one out of metal that can be copied? The fabricator will not have access to a 5MGE.

[Funkycheeze]

rocker mouldings - you could sell them for $$$ cuz the ones from toyota are ridiculously expensive

as well, they are flat and long, and the inside finish doesnt matter

[trdmkii]

I'd take some rocker moldings. I need a set

[AZNinaSUPRA]

How about new door skins for the inside that could be ez flat with mounting holes. I dont know i really like the the idea of the hood and hatch but thats more involved.
:werd:

[ren0]

How about new door skins for the inside that could be ez flat with mounting holes. I dont know i really like the the idea of the hood and hatch but thats more involved.

yeah, inside lower door panels. with the option for pre-cut mounting holes for good size speakers (6 1/2's or a 6x9 would be nice..). come on.. we need better stereo options and i don't want to cut up my door panels.

<edit>
oh yeah, and a shift knob would be nice.. just the same style and shape as stock but without the numbers and crap.

[white_mk_2]

Seriously, and in order of seriousness :

Hatch - the AE86 guys have em, and we need them

Sunroof panel - I don't need one but everyone else does :D

Hood - Even though Carbon Fibre FX already made molds, they don't sell these.

[Lino]

I like the shifter and headlight covers idea. The stereo surround is also a very good idea.

[jr85mk2]

Spark plug valley cover or intercooler block off plate - goes in front of the rad. Or how about a fan shroud, most everyone has a broken one!

[skip]

carbon fiber hatch/sunroof is kinda overkill...i thinks fiberglass would be more economical...especially if your gonna paint it

[AZNinaSUPRA]

center console (both parts)
shift knob
interior door panels

[Tanya]

ok well we have several agreements on parts, but what we need now is to know if those parts are OK to copy, then create a poll!
:)

[Crocket]

Keeping things semi-realistic, I like the ideas of:

1) Shift knob
2) Rocker Panel (black plastic inside door frame hiding carpet edge)
3) Rocker Molding (outside of car, below door)

Sonny

[williamb82]

if the guy can do carbon fiber he can also do fiberglass and id like a couple fiberglass sunroof panels and a fiberglass hatch, fiberglass rocker mouldings( outside on lower side of body) would be nice too and i have a extra set of headlight wiskers that can be lent out to get those made for everyone else. im not into carbon fiber, and no point in paying extra for it over fiberglass if im gonna paint the parts to match the car.
william

[AZNinaSUPRA]

faceplate for the head cluster?
just brainstorming

[Gage006]

How about new door skins for the inside that could be ez flat with mounting holes. I dont know i really like the the idea of the hood and hatch but thats more involved.

yeah, inside lower door panels. with the option for pre-cut mounting holes for good size speakers (6 1/2's or a 6x9 would be nice..). come on.. we need better stereo options and i don't want to cut up my door panels.

<edit>
oh yeah, and a shift knob would be nice.. just the same style and shape as stock but without the numbers and crap.

holy crap yes! somebody PLEASE make some speaker pods. i'd pay out the ass for em. i'm so tired of hearing the bass hit my little 4".

[82Spearco]

If you can make the following, I guarantee I will buy them, as long as the price isn't totally outrageous:

1) Headlight covers (to match my CF hood, if it ever comes)
2) Door Sills (black plastic inside door frame hiding carpet edge)

I also agree with William regarding the sunroof panel and the hatch. If those could be made in fiberglass, I would buy at least one of each. Could glass be used in the hatch, or would something like Lexan be needed?

I might also buy a center console/radio surround depending on the price.

[Funkycheeze]

you can, but you need to beef up thefiberglass around it - using a heavy sheet of glass kinda defeats the purpose of a lightweight hatch, and the only downside to the lexan is that it scratches easy, so you cant have a rear wiper

[williamb82]

weight has nothing to do with why we want a fiberglass hatch. a fiberglass hatch cant rust.

[sd85supra]

a CF Armrest would be very nice.

[Funkycheeze]

weight has nothing to do with why we want a fiberglass hatch. a fiberglass hatch cant rust.

i know, but i think its kinda dumb ot take a nice light fiberglass hatch and slap a heavy piece of glass in it

it would make the hatch easier to make if you just removed the wiper anyways, and then there is no downside to using the lexan, as long as you get it put in right

[dohc82]

Fiberglass hatch with glass is still lighter than steel hatch with glass. And we can keep the rear wiper. It took me 2 years to get a working rear wiper and I like it :D

[skip]

it would have to be FRP (Fiberglass Reinforced Plastic). just something i read in a failed AE86 fiberglass hatch group buy. we kinda getting off topic here though. :D here's a link to that thread if your interested.

http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?whichpage=1&ARCHIVEVIEW=&TOPIC_ID=53837

[SlimFastSupra]

wow... easy guys


baby steps!

no sunroof

no hatch

I think at this point if I had to pick 1 item it would be the console armrest cover.

[white_mk_2]

wow... easy guys


baby steps!

no sunroof

no hatch

I think at this point if I had to pick 1 item it would be the console armrest cover.

OK... well I don't think the armrest is a major NEED type item. Not to mention a CF armrest would be just a little uncomfortable. I guess you don't want to get into any large items like hatch, hood, etc. But why not a sunroof panel? It's not a very complicated piece if memory serves. If you make it and can sell it at a reasonable price tons of people will buy it. But if you want to keep it really simple and make a part that many people need then make the under door moldings. Or the body side moldings. These are parts we NEED and CF wouldn't rot out like the originals. How about a front spoiler lip? A bit large for shipping, but not in terms of materials to make it.

[TRD 83 SUPRA XX]

wow... easy guys


baby steps!

no sunroof

no hatch

I think at this point if I had to pick 1 item it would be the console armrest cover.

I'll take 5!!!!

[Gage006]

i'd buy an arm rest considering the price isn't too bad. it's gotta be better than my homemade one.

edit: oh i know, i know! cupholders!!! heh...

[onephatcrackaII]

just from reading this thread i think the top ones that i would consider buying would be

A. sun roof panel ...because i just spotted a spot of rust
B. spark plug valley..... because of the oily crude mess i have there
C. the cam cluster on the front of the engine..... that would just look nice



And i have one idea that i can think of right now....

Battery cover..... everytime i was my car i notive water and suds on my battery.

[Tanya]

OOOO yeah
I never thought about the timing covers. Talk about neat looking. Make both upper and lower CF timing covers, and if possible, make the lower timing cover easily removeable, w/o having to take the crank pulley off
:shock: :D

[82Spearco]

I won't buy a CF armrest, way to hard on the elbow. I am interested in a number of CF items, just not that one. I agree with Joe. Either the sunroom panel or the door sills wouldn't be too complicated, and would be much more well received (I think).

[SupraFiend]

FYI guys, I'm going to be going into production making fg pieces for the mk2 later this year. Pretty much everything thats been requested here is on my list, and then some. It will all be smaller stuff (no hoods, no hatch... for awhile at least) and will probalby be just fiber glass. CF is really finicky to work with and expensive. I'll let you all know when the stuff is ready.

[williamb82]

well, guess the thread title should have been what ricer parts in cf do you want. in all honesty the best 2 things to make would be the hatch and sunroof as those are the most common parts that need replaced. look at the old z's, they make fiberglass everything for those cars. who cares about a pos hard cf armrest. what is its purpose? to save a couple ounces of weight? give me a break.

[Tanya]

haha I kinda agree w/ you William, I think arm rests are supposed to be comfy, not hard CF
Hatch and sunroof are so easily rusted out and it would save tons of weight as well, but I can understand it being difficult to make ( although sunroof should basically be kinda easy )
ricer parts, eh. I think it's not about wanting ricer stuff so much as to have more options for the mk2, whether it's looks or weight.
In the engine bay CF spark plug cover would cover up a lot of mess and make everything look a little neater, timing covers would just be a different look and if we could get a removeable lower timing cover, it would be TONS easier to change that main seal or to check for slipping keyways.
what about a simple heat shield to put up around the stock airbox to keep it from exhaust and radiator heat?

[Ross]

I won't buy a CF armrest, way to hard on the elbow. I am interested in a number of CF items, just not that one. I agree with Joe. Either the sunroom panel or the door sills wouldn't be too complicated, and would be much more well received (I think).

Chad, you have a "sunroom" in you car?

:D

hee hee hee

[Gage006]

oooo timing cover would look realy nice. hell, i'd even take just an upper one.

[williamb82]

how do you expect to change the front main seal with a removeable lower timing cover? the seal wont fit over the crank pulley.
william

[Tanya]

wow do i need some sleep, i typed something totally different than what I meant
I meant to make it easier to change the timing belt
doh...

[williamb82]

i dont even think you could get the belt on that way. almost no clearance to get the belt on the gear around the pulley.

[Tanya]

hmm i read somewhere recently on here that you could cut off the lower timing cover to get around the crank pulley. I think TomD is the person who originally mentioned this. This is why, if it's possible, it'd be nice to have a detachable one made that way

[TRD 83 SUPRA XX]

Hmmm timeing belt? Can you try to make a clear timeing belt cover? :idea:

[williamb82]

yes, a lower timing cover that will come off without removing the crank pulley so that you can change the timing belt every 60k miles would be excellent.

[Angkistrodon]

CF or Fiberglass sunroof panel.....I don't care......Just something that won't rust.


PLEASE

[Tanya]

lol I drive 60k miles in 2 years time, so I think it would be nice, IMO
I've also thought of clear timing covers being neat, but not if you have the ugly stock cam gears
:?

[SupraFiend]

you can get a clear upper timing belt cover for the 7mgte, not sure if the 7m one fits the 5m

[williamb82]

doesnt fit.

[onephatcrackaII]

so what do you guys think about the battery shield?..... or am i the only one that has the problem with water getting on my battery? :(

[SupraFiend]

did you take the 2 little pieces of trim off there? Theres one on the hood behind the headlight and one that clips to the rad support and hangs over the battery. You shouldn't have a problem if you have both of those installed. I hate the ones on the rad support though, I always ditch those first when I get a new mk2

[jtamulis]

I know you're trying to start small, however you would find that a CF
rear hatch priced well will sell like WILDFIRE. IF There isn't one in
production when I get my shop set up I'll ba having them made and I
will start selling them. And you get rid of the heavy glass and put in
SFI (racing) Approved Lexan. You'll end up dropping quite a bit of weight.

Jeff
jtamulis@hotmail.com

[SupraFiend]

not as much as with a hood actually, and its on the wrong end of the car for ideal weight savings. But still, an afordable non rusting hatch would be nice. Very hard to do right though with composites

[jtamulis]

I'll actually prolly have them made out of fiberglass, it'll be cheaper
and you can paint to match. The Carbon fibre thing would be cool
but the fiberglass is much more practical.

Oh, and I'll be doing sunroofs too.

Jeff

[Gage006]

CF or Fiberglass sunroof panel.....I don't care......Just something that won't rust.


PLEASE

move to california :P

*hugs his rust-free-pra*

[williamb82]

that wont do any good. from what ive been told the sunroof panels rust out in the dry states too. i been trying to get one from arizona or cali but everyone ive talked to say they are rusted.

[Gage006]

really? mine is perfect. guess i got lucky. sorry, not for sale :P I use it daily and my car wouldn't like a big hole in the roof.

[williamb82]

i need one badly. mine is all rusted and sealed with silicone. motor is busted too. all i need is the panel though. i have a good motor to put in but that doesnt fix the rusted panel. if someone in cali could find a rust free panel at the boneyard id love it.
william

[82Spearco]

I'll actually prolly have them made out of fiberglass, it'll be cheaper
and you can paint to match. The Carbon fibre thing would be cool
but the fiberglass is much more practical.

Oh, and I'll be doing sunroofs too.

Jeff

Keep us us posted, Jeff. Sounds like some great stuff coming in the near future!

[batmobile]

If you get one of those bug visers it helps with the rust. The water cant get on top of it to start rust on the corners, thats where most of the rust starts on the sunroof.

The hatch would not be practical in carbon fiber, to expensive and hard to work with all those little corners.

I would like to see a carbon fiber glove box door, or headlight covers in carbon fiber, possibly even a headliner, even though it would cost alot in materials, it would not be very hard to make, and would really stand out!

[Angkistrodon]

really? mine is perfect. guess i got lucky. sorry, not for sale :P I use it daily and my car wouldn't like a big hole in the roof.

Hey you want to sell your sunroof panel?

[AZNinaSUPRA]

is this still in production?

[TRD 83 SUPRA XX]

Ditto?

[Tanya]

*bump*


there's a mkIII Celica group right now trying to organize a fiberglass /lexan hatch. the price "supposedly" will be $250...will keep an eye out for that

[TRD 83 SUPRA XX]

Give us a link girl!!! :?

[williamb82]

yeah, wheres the link.

[Tanya]

I don't want to post a link until there is any real information. Nothing is confirmed yet, prices and deals are still being worked out. Then there those who want a different style hatch and b;ah blah blah. Just waiting for everything to be confirmed.
Thought I'd give a heads up however.

[williamb82]

you really gonna make me search for it? i will find it.

[Tanya]

OK here it is, hop on it! lol
http://66.223.106.32/celicaforums/index.php?showtopic=2219

[williamb82]

ok, they need 10 people for it to go into production, so good thing you posted here.
william

[Tanya]

yeah that thread was just put up today, recently. the past couple of days they were farting around on the subject so I wasn't sure, lol