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  1. #1
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    Calling all 5MGE engine experts...

    I am in the middle of an engine rebuild on my 85 and I can't seem to find any good info on the 5MGE. I have done some measurements with a graduated cylinder and clay on the piston but I just wanted to check and see if anyone had these numbers or has done any measuring so we can compare numbers.

    Serviceable limit (How much material can I remove) on the Cylinder Head or Engine block? ( I have seen 0.006" for cylinder head, but that seems tiny)

    Piston Dish/Dome volume (measured about -1.5cc)

    Combustion Chamber volume (measured about 50cc)

    Factory gasket thickness (1.2mm or 0.047")

    Piston to valve clearance (measured between 0.110" exhaust and 0.105" intake and this was with a 1.4mm or 0.055" head gasket)

    These numbers are usually not that hard to find on other engines, but I guess that's what makes the 5MGE so special!
    1985 Toyota Supra

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    Have you looked at the engine section of the online TSRM yet???
    Chris Eng
    1981 MA47 Silver Metallic 5ME Automatic
    1985 MA67 Super Deep Red 5MGE 5-speed
    Member PacNW Supras/www.celicasupra.com

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    Yeah, I have looked throught the EM section and the EM portion of the Service Specification section and I don't see any of the numbers that I am looking for. It does give some specs on warpage, but that seems to be about it for the cylinder head and the block surfaces.
    1985 Toyota Supra

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    84 mt 6mge with intake, exhaust, suspension, brake, and wheel mods
    85 mt 6mge stock

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    See previous post from him. No help here, he already looked.
    Chris Eng
    1981 MA47 Silver Metallic 5ME Automatic
    1985 MA67 Super Deep Red 5MGE 5-speed
    Member PacNW Supras/www.celicasupra.com

    Quote from Popular Science
    Despite the constant physical and--judging by the twitchy, panicked expression--mental punishment inflicted on him by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew窶冱 experiments, Beaker keeps coming back for more. Clearly the Jackass crew grew up ingesting a healthy dose of these Muppet Show regulars.

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    Sounds like you've figured out some of the "race engine" info. that's missing in the TSRM. :lol: Now all you/we need is the specs. for the stock valve timing and cam profiles. 8-)

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    Well, I wouldn't take any of the numbers I posted as exactly accurate. I am going to repeat the combustion chamber volume and piston dish/dome volume measurements so I can validate the first round of measurements. I am preparing the supra for scca ITS and there is a very detailed set of allowed engine modifications. The one I am working on at the moment is raising the comp. ratio by 0.5. I don't think it is going to take much to do that but I don't want to raise it more than the allowed amount and I also want to keep the valves from hitting the pistons. So if anyone else has any of the measurements it would validate my results.
    Last edited by rwhite; 04-21-2005 at 04:52 PM.
    1985 Toyota Supra

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    If anyone is interested, I repeated the combustion chamber volume and piston dish/dome volume measurements.

    Combustion Chamber Volume = 52 cc

    Piston Dish/Dome Volume = -3cc

    These numbers are for a stock 5mge.
    1985 Toyota Supra

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwhite
    If anyone is interested, I repeated the combustion chamber volume and piston dish/dome volume measurements.

    Combustion Chamber Volume = 52 cc

    Piston Dish/Dome Volume = -3cc

    These numbers are for a stock 5mge.



    What spark plugs did you use when measuring the combustion chamber volume? The stock heat range ND/NGK's, or something different??

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    Keep the discussion going boys...information coming out in this posts is just awesome. I'm gonna sticky this posts for now...good stuff.

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