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04-19-2005, 10:11 AM #1
Calling all 5MGE engine experts...
I am in the middle of an engine rebuild on my 85 and I can't seem to find any good info on the 5MGE. I have done some measurements with a graduated cylinder and clay on the piston but I just wanted to check and see if anyone had these numbers or has done any measuring so we can compare numbers.
Serviceable limit (How much material can I remove) on the Cylinder Head or Engine block? ( I have seen 0.006" for cylinder head, but that seems tiny)
Piston Dish/Dome volume (measured about -1.5cc)
Combustion Chamber volume (measured about 50cc)
Factory gasket thickness (1.2mm or 0.047")
Piston to valve clearance (measured between 0.110" exhaust and 0.105" intake and this was with a 1.4mm or 0.055" head gasket)
These numbers are usually not that hard to find on other engines, but I guess that's what makes the 5MGE so special!1985 Toyota Supra
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04-19-2005, 01:25 PM #2
Have you looked at the engine section of the online TSRM yet???
Chris Eng
1981 MA47 Silver Metallic 5ME Automatic
1985 MA67 Super Deep Red 5MGE 5-speed
Member PacNW Supras/www.celicasupra.com
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04-19-2005, 01:42 PM #3
Yeah, I have looked throught the EM section and the EM portion of the Service Specification section and I don't see any of the numbers that I am looking for. It does give some specs on warpage, but that seems to be about it for the cylinder head and the block surfaces.
1985 Toyota Supra
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04-19-2005, 09:30 PM #4
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Will the tsrm help?
http://www.cygnusx1.net/supra/librar...KII/index.html84 mt 6mge with intake, exhaust, suspension, brake, and wheel mods
85 mt 6mge stock
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04-20-2005, 01:53 PM #5
See previous post from him. No help here, he already looked.
Chris Eng
1981 MA47 Silver Metallic 5ME Automatic
1985 MA67 Super Deep Red 5MGE 5-speed
Member PacNW Supras/www.celicasupra.com
Quote from Popular Science
Despite the constant physical and--judging by the twitchy, panicked expression--mental punishment inflicted on him by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew窶冱 experiments, Beaker keeps coming back for more. Clearly the Jackass crew grew up ingesting a healthy dose of these Muppet Show regulars.
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04-20-2005, 08:31 PM #6
Sounds like you've figured out some of the "race engine" info. that's missing in the TSRM. :lol:
Now all you/we need is the specs. for the stock valve timing and cam profiles. 8-)
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04-21-2005, 01:56 PM #7
Well, I wouldn't take any of the numbers I posted as exactly accurate. I am going to repeat the combustion chamber volume and piston dish/dome volume measurements so I can validate the first round of measurements. I am preparing the supra for scca ITS and there is a very detailed set of allowed engine modifications. The one I am working on at the moment is raising the comp. ratio by 0.5. I don't think it is going to take much to do that but I don't want to raise it more than the allowed amount and I also want to keep the valves from hitting the pistons. So if anyone else has any of the measurements it would validate my results.
Last edited by rwhite; 04-21-2005 at 04:52 PM.
1985 Toyota Supra
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04-26-2005, 02:26 PM #8
If anyone is interested, I repeated the combustion chamber volume and piston dish/dome volume measurements.
Combustion Chamber Volume = 52 cc
Piston Dish/Dome Volume = -3cc
These numbers are for a stock 5mge.1985 Toyota Supra
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04-30-2005, 02:03 AM #9
Originally Posted by rwhite
What spark plugs did you use when measuring the combustion chamber volume? The stock heat range ND/NGK's, or something different??
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04-30-2005, 02:46 AM #10
Keep the discussion going boys...information coming out in this posts is just awesome. I'm gonna sticky this posts for now...good stuff.
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