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    Smile Let's do this... slowly (Canadian 85P restore)

    It's taken damn near seven years and nine mkii's to get to this point. Everyone likes stories and pictures and you have to know where you came form to know where you're going, so let's have a quick run down to bring everyone up to speed.

    • Bought my first one in June 2003, an 82 L-type two-tone silver/grey out of Chilliwack for far too much money. It had to be push started and sounded very mean, but was in reality extremely tired. Took until 2007 to realize that amongst other things, one of the previous owners had decided removing the wiring harness when pulling the engine was too difficult and simply cut and it. His hackjob reassembly was the reason the car would never start with the key. While we're here, let's put up couple pictures! Car was sold in 2007 to another forum member after a marathon engine swap / repair session. Good times!



    • It's actually backwards, because #2 arrived before #1. #2 was a parts car, so it doesn't really count. And what a parts car! Total piece of crap bagged 176k kms 84 with a super cheap paint job. Previous owner ran it out of oil and tossed a rod through the side of the block. Contributed many parts to virtually every mkii after. $250, stripped and scrapped.



    • #3 is probably the most important one. Effectively forced to buy it out of a blackberry bush in some scary guys backyard with no title for $300. An SDR 85P automatic with an awesome sounding broken torque converter. Towed it home with the intention of stripping it for parts. Aside from some accident damage and rear-quarter rust it looked pretty good.



      At some point my situation changed and I suddenly needed a car to drive. using ICBC's last-resort process I was able to obtain a title for the car. Cue Seamus (Suprafiend) and parts from cars #2 and #4. Together we spent 2 or 3 nights in the pouring rain, outside, pulling the broken automatic out and installing an 82-spec auto in it's place. We loaded up all the manual-conversion parts into the back (amongst other things) and drove 70kms to Seamus' house, where we promptly removed the automatic and set about getting the car roadworthy. I'll skip the part where the drain plug on the transmission came out on the drive and we put about 10L of ATF through the system before realizing we were just pouring it on the ground. I proceeded to drive this beast in one form or another for the next couple years. During that time I did plenty of stupid stuff in the car, including rear-ending someone. Some of you might recognize a calendar-like shot from a few years ago. I think this still holds some sort of record as the worst Supra to get into the CS calendar.



      Probably my favourite car I've ever owned.

    • No pictures exist of #4. It was a white 82L (or maybe it was a P?) auto that Seamus and I bought for, oh, $80 and owned for little more than a week. Thanks for the automatic transmission #4! Moving on...

    • #5. Californian rust-free body and absolutely baked paint. Driven into the back of a womans taurus with no insurance coverage and bought via proxy for a very reasonable price. Anyways, not bad for a starting point.



      Several busy weekends in Seamus' garage yielded a pretty presentable car:




      A couple months later we struck gold at one of the local wreckers - a theft recovery 85P SDR with a black/grey cloth interior. So hot! By this point, we were becoming exceedingly good at taking these cars apart:






    • #6 and #7 we're bought for an exceptionally low price. #6 was a somewhat respectable light-blue 84 P-type and was sold the next day. I believe the car is still driving around the lower mainland. #7 was an 83 P-type, and would not be missed:



    • #8 was a very early (#3900 or so) 82 L-type hardtop silver/gray with a busted timing tensioner. Fixed it, cleaned it up a bit, and I believe it still lives with the same owner as my first silver/gray L-type. Was glad to save that one - it was on it's way to the crusher.



    • And so we get to the end of the list. #3 (Stepchild) was exchanged for #5 (The Californian), and #5 was in turn exchanged for #9. #9 is, well, pretty much the same damn thing. 85 P-type, SDR. The car has been in storage for the last couple years waiting for me to get settled in to working life (mortgage FTW), and now seems to be the time to get the ball rolling. Here's what we're working with:


      Not bad, not bad. An exceptional interior (and new leather to go along with it), a pretty decent, straight body, and the vast majority of suspension work is already done. I'm going to plead a bit of ignorance, as I have not driven the car in over two years, nor have I actually driven it while it's been 'mine'. I honestly don't remember what has been done to it already. Seamus will fill in those blanks, if he so chooses.

    As for what's going to happen to it, well I think the general idea is to spend a lot of money recklessly and at the end of the day have something shiny, pretty, and worth approximately 1/4 of what's invested in it. That's how this works, right?

    The title of this thread is very appropriate - I don't anticipate having this car in my possession for another couple years. I'm using that time as a luxury; I have not made a decision of what's going to power this thing. It will likely be a JZ-motor of some variety, because that seems to be the new hot shit. I'll burn that bridge when I come to it.

    Back in the present, Seamus has begun bodywork on the car - repairing every flaw he can find and prepping the car for paint. I intend to the mechanical and electrical myself, but I don't have the confidence or knowledge to tackle the pretty stuff. I will probably cave and stick to the stock colour, but I'm a huge sucker for two-tone schemes a la Dan McBoost and may go that direction instead. I'd like to try a few things - I'll be losing the power antenna and trying to fit/create some form of moonroof.

    Wheels are a huge thing for me, and the F+R BBK throws me up a couple sizes than I'm used to. I would buy some work equip-01's in about 0.25 seconds if they were made in 16" or 17", but it's just not going to happen. Beyond that I love mesh and a deep dish. I've got some time here.

    That's enough for an introductory post.
    Last edited by Deanfun; 02-05-2010 at 12:31 PM.
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    As a follow up, here's some detail photos of the ar, showing some of the areas Seamus will first be tackling. I will leave it to him to fully explain what he's up to as things progress.














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    Holy crap! So you and Seamus are working on a car together eh??? Are you in BC then? Or you makin a trip from Fort McMurray over to check it out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttered View Post
    Holy crap! So you and Seamus are working on a car together eh??? Are you in BC then? Or you makin a trip from Fort McMurray over to check it out?
    Not too sure who you are, but Seamus is doing some bodywork on the car as part of its restoration. I'm not doing anything right now except paying the bills.
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    Just another Canadian that owns a supra. haha
    Someone that wishes the local supra community was a bit bigger
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    Just another Canadian that owns a supra. haha
    Someone that wishes the local supra community was a bit bigger
    It used to be, but Dean moved away, a couple others have been inactive lately and a few got out of mk2s all together. We'll get some more meets going soon

    Great post (first one), so many memories. I won't do one of these, it would be too long as I'm at 16 right now But that includes #3 to #7 + #9 off your list. Yeah, we pass Supras around like... uh, lets not do that analogy. Dean and me were partners in crime in the Supra world for a long time. Well we still kinda are. I sold\traded Dean my old SDR 85 before he moved away and have been storing it for him ever since. For the last year I've been working on a company of my own (video game development) and doing a little restoration work on the side. This project will probably take a couple months.

    This car was my main ride for many years. It has the first NAL leather skin kit as it was prototyped on this car, and was used to test the CFX hoods as well. This shot Dean posted...
    was in the very first CS.com Calander. It won Best Wild MK2 twice and Best Interior once at the old BC SupraFests, and even took the Furtherest Driven trophy at TORCFest one year. It was a tough decsion to sell it, but I had to scale back the fleet so I could focus on my other cars. But now I've got the opertunity to finish restoring it. This car is what I call "Canadian Mint". As far as mk2s that have actually been used, this is about as good as they get rust wise in Canada. The only truely rust free Canadian cars I've seen have had less then 100k(60k miles) kms on them and been garage kept every day of their life. The rust on it currently is about the same as when I bought it back in 2003 as I've stored it in covered parking ever since.

    My updates to this thread will cover the repairs to each area as they're completed. This is partially to keep Dean up to date to the progress on the car, but its also going to be a unique and innovative look of how best to repair and even prevent rust to all of the common areas that rust on these cars. Since this car only has the factory undercoating, its got at least a little starting in just about all of them.

    It should be interesting, so check in often!

    EDIT: The rust repair to this car is now complete. Those of you rereading this thread who are trying to find a specific update can do so through my final update post on page 5, as I added the final pics and links to each update there. See here...
    http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/sh...057#post654057

    I would recomend the rest of you read through the whole thread, its not that long and there aren't too many comments and you might miss something important if you just skip to the end.
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    wow! i thought i was big on intro posts!!!
    LOL
    looks great, cant wait to see where this goes!
    Decided to swap the engine out of the gate
    so buy all the bits i cant use!!!
    http://forums.celicasupra.com/showth...733#post615733

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    Quote Originally Posted by 83CelWA View Post
    And of course the brakes are bad, when you use them, they make the car slow.
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    It will be easier then my way, less screwing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanfun View Post
    I'm going to plead a bit of ignorance, as I have not driven the car in over two years, nor have I actually driven it while it's been 'mine'. I honestly don't remember what has been done to it already. Seamus will fill in those blanks, if he so chooses.
    Oh yeah, forgot to fill in those blanks.

    The body is stock, obviously. Its been sitting on a set of rolling jackstands for the last couple years (read shitty mismatched stock wheels and tires). Interior is stock except for a sweet Momo that matches the stock grey/black color scheme beautifully, and is mint as I spent alot of time tracking down and replacing every part that had a flaw. The car has a kick ass alarm install by yours truely, and tint on 5 windows. This car also has the uber cool DigiDash, a Canadian only option on the later PTypes.

    Dean put in a stock 86 5m as an interm motor (I pulled the original a few years back and it lives on in 2 other cars now). The brakes were completely done over with performance off the shelf parts but Dean has picked up the JKBB kit so we threw some regular stock stuff back on for now. I put in a nice 4.1 diff out of a stock auto car so its in pretty decent shape and the LSD is fairly tight. The 4.1 also corrects the speedo when running 225/50-15s. Also I had a parts car with only 88,000 kms on it (about 50k miles) and this car has the rear subframe, A arms and steering rack from it.

    The suspension is pretty sorted as this car saw alot of autox action when I was driving it. The rear was kept fairly soft as I was always struggling with eliminating oversteer. There's ST springs with Monroe Sensatracs, and an addco sway. The subframe bushings were chopped down about half an inch to help with the negative camber. The sway bar mounts were replaced with super beefy ones I made up. The front is a bit more radical, this is the car that was used for my coil over thread (I think thats still stickied in Susp.). A few bits are out right now while the car is in storage, but currently we have an LJM bar, front addco sway, JK 25mm RCAs, Celica GTS steering arms (first Supra ever to have them), KYB Select A Ride adjustable dampers (precursor to the AGX), custom coil overs using Tom Motorsport sleaves (not that Toms, and for a Prelude application) on Celica GTS strut casings with 450lb 6 inch springs.
    Last edited by SupraFiend; 02-05-2010 at 12:07 AM.
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