View Poll Results: What would be the most cost effective and quickest/easiest swap?
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02-03-2010, 09:25 PM #1
My Panda is about to get boosted!!! (Build thread)
Ok guys!!! I've had my tired old 5M-GE for a year now and i just got my income taxes done and i'm going to do a swap as i have enough money to do so now. I am debating though as to which motor to get and such.
I have 2 options
1] 7M-GTE w/o ECU & harness..includes Complete Engine - Turbo - Intake Manifold - Exhaust Manifold - Distributor - Alternator - Starter - A/C Compressor - Power Steering Pump - Throttle Body
2] 1JZ-GTTE and it includes Complete Engine - Automatic Transmission - ECU - Harness - Turbos - Intake Manifold - Exhaust Manifold - Alternator - Starter - A/C Compressor - Power Steering Pump - Throttle Body
there is only $50 difference in price...I have not quoted shipping yet.
What would be easier to do? Can I keep my stock trans and bolt it to the 1j or would i have to convert to auto? How much money or how hard is it to get an ECU and harness for the 7m? I can't decide.
I really don't care about power ATM, but if i can get more power AND a trans for only $50 more, should i go that route? Would it end up costing me the same?
I will have about $500-$800 left to play with AFTER the cost of the motor or motor/trans...please help! Anything but the weak old 5M! PS, i will sell the 5M to anyone for a VERY decent price if wanted AFTER I get my swap done or close to done!
ANY and ALL help/suggestions/criticism will be appreciated and might even include a road trip if super helpful.
I will deffinately be supporting our vendors throughout the swap process. The reason I'm ditching the 5M is because it would cost more to rebuild and boost than to just swap. plus either of the motors have less than 50,000 miles on them guaranteed.
thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU!!!!! I'm so stoked!!!My SupraMy GTI <-George-> My youtube names are 'BleuHaloNatic06' and 'DasCreme' ...i have a few vids, nothing drool over....well, maybe.
02-03-2010, 09:39 PM #2
I'm pretty sure that the 7MGTE will be less expensive, and with the help of CS.com, a lot easier to do than the 1JZGTTE.Jeff Sawyer
I used to have a few Supras. I do miss them...
02-03-2010, 09:46 PM #3
About three years ago, I had the same choice. But unlike you i didn't ask the masses. I just jumped into the 1jz. I also did so with a tax return. About the same situation your in right now. except my car had been sitting for a long time prior.
If this is your daily driver and you will need it shortly, then do the 7mgte. More parts available and cheaper. Also this swap is almost second nature to more people here.
If you can affor to have your car down for an extended period of time. You will also need to spend lots and lots of time on research. Go for the 1jzgte! Just to let you know tho 800 extra to play with will not be enough. I have about 3 times that invested and i still have wiring to be done and exhaust just to get running.
Either way you go, I will be watching the build. If you go towards the darkside and get the 1JZ welcome. Do not get discouraged with it either way, these things take time and money. Its the look on the other guys face when you open the hood to you 20+ year old car and he sees the reason you crushed him on the track.82 redpra, P type, soon to be daily driver.
84 blupra, L type, 1jz, koyorad 3" radiator, Driftmotion intercooler and piping, greddy timing belt, underdrive pulleys, walboro fuel pump, more to come.
99 suburban, white, wifes car.
02-04-2010, 05:33 AM #4
performance parts are more expensive on an 1JZ and installation is easier too for the M series..
7M are torquey tooFUN IS NOT ON STRAIGHT ROAD
carbon and fiberglass parts to fight vs rust:
85 WHITE P-type XX clone , 5MGE ,with Rota RB in 17.....
84 P-type ,completely gutted ,7mgte FOR TRACK USE ONLY!!
02-04-2010, 08:47 AM #5
You know all those 7mgte swap threads where everyone that's EVER done one suggests you should buy a complete running donor car?
THATS BECAUSE YOU SHOULD BUY A COMPLETE RUNNING DONOR CAR!
--billyMBlue 82 L - Black 83 P - White 83 P - Brown 84 T - White 85 P - Blue 85 GTS
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02-04-2010, 09:41 AM #6
I know I did! Because my donor was $300! (and if it didn't have a spun a bearing I woulda tossed that bitch in without a rebuild and total cost was about $300).
That didn't include:
Raptor Racing Exhaust and RC downpipe
Parts needed to get the tach working
Clutch good enough to hold 300 ft lbs(used it on my 5M-GTE before)
Wiring books, goofy sized drill to move the dipstick, intake piping and shrink tub/electrial tape connectors, etc.
02-04-2010, 11:41 AM #7
You will need more than a tax refund. That money left to play with will be played out before you know it.Dave Harrison
'85 Mark2 7mgte 5sp Isis
'85 Mark2 7mgte Auto Athena
'85 Mark2 7mgte 5sp Gaia
02-04-2010, 01:14 PM #8
02-04-2010, 01:48 PM #9
Buy a donor car like everyone else has suggested. Piecing it together will be a pain, and sourcing good parts will make the swap longer. I voted 7mgte btw.'82 Supra L, '85 Supra P, '84 Supra P, '79 Celica ST
02-04-2010, 02:06 PM #10
I vote for -1 1JZ, parts are impossible to find.
My $2300 5 speed complete swap has only taken 10 months
$5K and I will spend this years tax return also.
But its only money, everyone knows all the cool kids have a JZ!!! do it
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