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    lexus afm and 550cc inj's

    So i have been reading on doing this on my 7mgte and what I have seen is that if you use the lexus afm you have to use 550cc injectors to match so that your ecu will take this in right and this can be run on a stock ecu no tuning required. thats pretty awesome but question is why? is there a power gain in this at stock psi? or is it just nice for future tune-ability? oh and happy 4th of july everyone!
    82' fresh paint 7mgte -___- 11k+ deep
    What am I doing currently?
    What kind of oil should you run?
    Lexus afm and 550cc injectors?
    Exhaust & Intake cam timing?

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    I'm pretty sure there are no gains with this mod on stock boost. Also, as I understand it, you need an SAFC or your car is going to run rich as hell.
    David H
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    From what I remember on this, with 550's and the matching AFM, you dont get more power stock, but you do get the ability to boost higher before hitting fuel cut.. I could be wrong though. I thought the lexus AFM let you run the larger injectors with out ecu issues/needing a AFC..
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarFreek View Post
    IF-you dont want to spend the money on an AFC, and retain stock ECU, you have to retain 440/stock afm, or 55o/lexus afm combos, as stock computer cant adjust outside of its programmed learning curve. Whatever you do, you will need a good wideband to "tune" with. Unless everything else was given to you free, no reason at all not to have one already....
    according to carfreak it does work with stock ecu
    82' fresh paint 7mgte -___- 11k+ deep
    What am I doing currently?
    What kind of oil should you run?
    Lexus afm and 550cc injectors?
    Exhaust & Intake cam timing?

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    Good to hear. I must've been thinking of something else. I'm pretty sure theres tons of threads on this subject on supramania.
    David H
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    humm shall check that out.....
    82' fresh paint 7mgte -___- 11k+ deep
    What am I doing currently?
    What kind of oil should you run?
    Lexus afm and 550cc injectors?
    Exhaust & Intake cam timing?

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    the afm for the Lexus v8 is larger diameter but otherwise a Karman vortex unit like the 7mgte stock afm so it's a cheap easy way to get some better breathing into your 7mgte and keep it relatively stock. Increasing injector size from 440 to 550 correspondingly increases the fuel delivery
    Dave Harrison

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    It does two things. First, you increase fuel and air delivery by 25%, so even at stock boost, you will see a power increase, figure 15-20% with stock ECUs "tuning" ability. Second, the larger diameter means a given volume of air moves slower past sensor, allowing more air to flow for a given sensor output. This means you can run higher boost levels before fuel cut sets in. On stock AFM, Fuel cut happened at 12 psi with my car. I still havent seen it at 18 psi with same turbo. Heres a very old link.http://www.suprasonic.org/public_htm...exusnotes.html
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    yeah im really wanting to do this little upgrade just still lookin for some good injectors. Im hoping by now everyone knows about venoms so thats out, I have seen alot of deschworks (sp) injectors around but to be honest i havent heard much about them, im probably just going to spend the money and get some rc ones soon cause they are reputable company.
    82' fresh paint 7mgte -___- 11k+ deep
    What am I doing currently?
    What kind of oil should you run?
    Lexus afm and 550cc injectors?
    Exhaust & Intake cam timing?

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    denso or RC injectors. done
    1983 p-type 7mgte/R154

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