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  1. #1
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    Gotta love having a faulty HG!

    Hey all. Just thought I would share my frustration. I had to replace my old crank because of a good old rod knock. Got a new crank kit and installed it a few days ago. I figured while I was at it, I would re-gasket some of my leaky spots. Re-gasket the bottom end and replaced the HG. Not the first time I have torn this engine down and reassembled, unfortunately. Got it all back together and got it running. All is well when I take it for a test drive other than a slight timing issue. Come back home and back into the garage it goes for a little tuning. I start to adjust my timing and all of a sudden I notice a little white smoke coming from the exhaust. WTF! I check my oil, all is well. I check my coolant, all is well. Still not overheating. I can't possibly have a BHG, it's brand new! So I start to reassemble my interior while it sits at idle keeping a close eye on the temp. Good for about 5 mins, and all of a sudden it starts the steady climb to hot. I start to scream profanities while I kill the engine. Clearly I have an anger issue. At least this time it's for good reason! So obviously I have to pull the head. I get it off and here is what I find....



    Can you tell where the gasket blew????



    So apparently I got a faulty HG. : Ain't that a bitch! So now I have to order another new HG locally so I can get it fixed ASAP. Gotta love spending more money than necessary. At least the leak was small enough and caught early enough that I don't think I did any damage. Coolant and oil were both still clean, although I'll obviously replace them to be safe. Anyway, just needed to vent some of my frustrations.
    The Dingo (aka Nic)

    '84 Black P-type

  2. #2
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    Did you take care of the head and block when you replaced the HG, or did you just replace the HG and hoped that the head and block were still straight and had no high/low spots?
    -Chris

    1983 Celipra GTS:
    6M bored .50 over. 250cc injectors. Delta 272 regrind cams. Carter HF fuel pump.
    Pacesetter header w/2.5" cutsom exhaust. Open air intake filter. 3" piping to TB. 65mm TB & ported AFM.
    4:10 rear from Supra. BillyM shifter kit. Swapped most interior over to black. T3 camber plates.
    935 Budget Coilover kit. KYB AGX struts. T3 Needle bearing upper perch kit. Eibach Sport rear supra springs. SF Ford TFI Performance coil.
    Almost finished with the fiberglass hatch!

  3. #3
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    You should call the manufacturer and ask for a refund/replacement!! That's not cool!
    '85 Supra - Homemade carbon-fiber headlight covers, homemade twin 10" sub enclosure in place of back seats, lots of blue under the hood, Rabid Chimp 2.5" exhaust mated to a custom muffler, 16's, lowered front end, T3 camber plates....7M-GE on the stand, in progress!!
    She's a never ending project, I wouldn't have it any other way!!

  4. #4
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    It's definitely not an issue with the block or head as far as that goes. I had everything machined last summer when I rebuilt the head and I have had no issues until today. It has never overheated and only had 2000 miles since the machining. The problem is that it is a graphite HG and there is a metal skeleton to it. In the pic where it blew through there is no metal skeleton, just a graphite coating that covered the gaps so it wasn't noticeable until it blew. I've already sent an email requesting a new HG set, so we will see what they say.
    The Dingo (aka Nic)

    '84 Black P-type

  5. #5
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    Who did you get the gasket through, and what brand?
    -Chris

    1983 Celipra GTS:
    6M bored .50 over. 250cc injectors. Delta 272 regrind cams. Carter HF fuel pump.
    Pacesetter header w/2.5" cutsom exhaust. Open air intake filter. 3" piping to TB. 65mm TB & ported AFM.
    4:10 rear from Supra. BillyM shifter kit. Swapped most interior over to black. T3 camber plates.
    935 Budget Coilover kit. KYB AGX struts. T3 Needle bearing upper perch kit. Eibach Sport rear supra springs. SF Ford TFI Performance coil.
    Almost finished with the fiberglass hatch!

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  7. #7
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    I got the Hg from a company called JIS. I've used this exact HG before w/o issue. The one that is on it's way is fel-pro.
    The Dingo (aka Nic)

    '84 Black P-type

  8. #8
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    Just think of how many of the gaskets from the same run that are going to have that problem as well. I bet the company said a big oh shit when they got your email.

    I hate when stuff is supposed to go one way and it turns a 180 and turns into a nightmare for no good reason. At least it wasn't something stupid you did, that is way worse. Your frustration is warranted if you ask me..
    Silver 85 P-type Auto. 272,000 miles on chassis
    5mge built by Chimp, Bored .30 over

  9. #9
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    Stock Toyota or MHG only on M engines...that's my opinion
    Mark

  10. #10
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    ---or Beck/Arnley (they make OEM gaskets for Toyota, right?).

    Dan (DragonLady's husband) *RIP Tyler (2yo son lost to cancer)
    1986 P-type (Ruffian) black 6M 5 speed (formerly Lexusboy's), sitting.
    1986 P type MKII 2tone night blue met/silver met. 5MGE auto, waiting for summer.
    2005 Dodge Magnum Magnesium Pearl - new family car!
    2000 Chrysler Town & Country - Charcoal, family/stuff hauler

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