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    CelicaSupra.com Member CLToy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saul68 View Post
    Nice work !What kind of gauges are you using ?
    AEM digital....
    - AFR and boost on the a pillar for now
    - water temp, oil pressure, and oil temp above the radio
    - gps on column
    -more planned ..... want differential readings but keep that quiet for now. :-)

    More detailed images and install earlier in this thread
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    I installed the w58 elbow and speedo cable. Unfortunately the speedo still doesn't work. I will check at the back of the cluster...maybe there is a problem there. If that's not it, maybe there is something wrong with the gear in the transmission.
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    I've actually been eyeballing a much more expensive solution to speedo woes myself... You can bolt an electronic VSS to the trans(even using the elbow adapter is space is limited i think) and then either use whatever aftermarket cluster you want, orrrrrr you can get a conversion box to run the stock cluster too.
    https://www.driftmotion.com/Marlin-C...SS-p/dm693.htm

    and then something like these, which you should be able to program so your speedo shows perfectly, regardless of how warn your needle return spring is, just tune the box so the speedo shows right even if the numbers don't line up. You can tune your standalone to see the signal properly for trac control, boost by gear, etc, without having to depend on the vss built into the mk2 cluster that feeds the cruise control, it is not super accurate and bounces around a bit i find.
    http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.c...rod/prd886.htm
    http://www.abbott-tach.com/cablex.htm

    Or talk to redline and see if they'll convert ours over for a reasonable price, I haven't asked them though.
    http://redlinegaugeworks.com/services

    Nice work man, love the progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamble View Post
    I've actually been eyeballing a much more expensive solution to speedo woes myself... You can bolt an electronic VSS to the trans(even using the elbow adapter is space is limited i think) and then either use whatever aftermarket cluster you want, orrrrrr you can get a conversion box to run the stock cluster too.
    https://www.driftmotion.com/Marlin-C...SS-p/dm693.htm

    and then something like these, which you should be able to program so your speedo shows perfectly, regardless of how warn your needle return spring is, just tune the box so the speedo shows right even if the numbers don't line up. You can tune your standalone to see the signal properly for trac control, boost by gear, etc, without having to depend on the vss built into the mk2 cluster that feeds the cruise control, it is not super accurate and bounces around a bit i find.
    http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.c...rod/prd886.htm
    http://www.abbott-tach.com/cablex.htm

    Or talk to redline and see if they'll convert ours over for a reasonable price, I haven't asked them though.
    http://redlinegaugeworks.com/services

    Nice work man, love the progress.
    Whoa, yeah this is good info. I am prepping for a traction control setup using the VSS wires from the GPS speedo as the front tire reading, and then this may be very helpful (instead of welding a gear and sensor on the rear wheels) and set the EMS to do its thing.

    Trying to get this ready to bring to the Tail this year.
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    So the point of converting to the hydraulic throwout bearing was to avoid using the pull clutch system that the factory r154 uses? I'm not a huge fan of locating my slave inside the tranny, but I'm also not a big fan of dealing with the r154's pull clutch and throwout bearing retainer system. Kinda sounds like you ended up with an even worse install process then the stock setup. Even tilting the motor you weren't able to get that tranny to slide on? Installing trannies with the motor in car is never fun, and the input shaft binding going into the pilot bearing is pretty common with any tranny, but it sounds like you almost had some other kind of clearance problem with what you had to do.

    The last r154 I installed in a mk2 I had the luxury of the chassis being fully stripped for a restoration. Thus for the shift boot I was able to do some nice metal work and just adjust the sheet metal so that it was essentially the same as stock but moved back an inch or so, stock boot bolts right on. For the tranny clearance, I opted not to do it with a press or hammer. The car we took the tranny out of had it done that way and the interior was not happy about it, caused some fitment problems. So I just cut a notch out of the tunnel where the one corner of the R contacts and then built a little steel enclosure around it and welded it all up nice. There's a little bump where the enclosure is under the carpet but you don't really see it once the interior is back in.
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    I'm not surprised it was difficult sliding the tranny on. When I ran my Aasco/Tilton twin plate clutch it was a pain aligning both clutch discs such that the splines were perfectly lined up. Much harder than a single plate clutch. As usual, you found a way. Those twin plate clutches hold great, bit of the rattle at idle, but so nice and lightweight! I recall my twin plate clutch and flywheel combo was 10 lbs lighter than my ACT clutch/aluminum flywheel combo. Pretty significant. Keep up the good job!

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