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    Ford GT40

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    Ford GT40 Mk I - Prototype

    https://www.classicdriver.com/en/art...-gt40-roadster



    Ford GT40 Mk I - 289 Cubic inch Ford Fairlane motor

    http://hiconsumption.com/2016/06/auc...ord-gt40-mk-1/


    Ford GT40 Mk II -- Aaaah


    Just your typical grocery getting Ford sedan motivation 427 Cubic Inch Ford Galaxy motor


    Now that's a functional rear end

    http://www.finescale.com/product-inf...ford-gt40-mkii


    Ford GT40 Mk III - Street Car 289 Cubic inch
    Wire Wheels
    Sold as a street car from the beginning.

    http://www.topcarrating.com/1967-for...3-mark-iii.php


    Ford GT40 Mk IV
    This is the one that makes Italian and German car makers sweat at night
    The Mk. IV ran in only two races, the 1967 12 Hours of Sebring and the 1967 24 Hours of Le Mans and won both events.

    http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...d-gt-40-mk-iv/



    Just a couple'a good ol' boys - Dan Gurney and AJ Foyt


    http://performance.ford.com/series/f...v-engines.html

    If you can't beat them, change the rules. That's the only way the Europeans could beat this car.

    The Ford GT40 had a long and interesting history.
    When Ford wanted to go endurance racing they went to Eric Broadley and Lola Automobiles in England to design a chassis. Ford hamstrung the English by demanding that the chassis be constructed of steel because Ford was more comfortable with this than aluminum. As a result these cars were seriously overweight.
    They started with 255 cubic inch small blocks and switched to 289 cubic inch small blocks for the production Mark Is.
    If a little is good, a whole pile more is a whole pile better. Ford went with the 427 cubic inch FE big block for the Mark II
    The Mark III was a street version of the Mark I and sold to the public in England. 7 were sold. The 289 was detuned to 335 hp.
    Ford decided to get serious and totally redesigned the GT40 in the USA by Kar Kraft using aluminum and modern construction techniques.
    The GT40 Mark IV is the only time there was a totally American victory at Le Mans. An American car with an American engine driven by American drivers and an American team.


    2004-2006 Ford GT

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_GT

    Supercharged 5.4L modular V8
    A pretty well executed redo of the Ford GT40 Mk III


    2016-2020 Ford GT
    3.5 liter twin-turbocharged EcoBoost V6 engine making 647 hp

    Well, I guess if you go to Home Depot and have to bring some 2x4's home you can stick them in that tunnel.
    Okay, okay, it's not THAT bad looking, and it may be aerodynamically efficient, but it's just got too much junk on it.

    Oh, and in case you are wondering why the new cars are Ford GTs rather than Ford GT40s, the brain trust at Ford forgot to copyright the name GT40.
    A company, Safir Engineering Ltd. copyrighted the name in 1985. In 1999 the name was transferred to Safir GT40 Spares Inc. which makes spare parts for the original Ford GT40s. Safir offered to sell the name to Ford for get this, $40 million! Ford declined.
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    Those are on my short list of "Favorite Cars". I don't stand a snowball's chance of fitting into one, but I still love them.....
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    They are breath taking cars.
    They are from the golden age of racing and the golden age of car design when there was as much art and seat of the pants engineering as true science.
    They may be old, but they are truly gorgeous.

    The whole story of Ford taking on Ferrari at Le Mans is just so epic!

    All the characters involved Henry Ford II, Enzo Ferrari, Caroll Shelby, Eric Broadley, Dan Gurney, AJ Foyt.

    The cars of this era are so gorgeous.

    Manufacturers of this era all made gorgeous designs, but Ford certainly was involved with its share.


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    Old versus new. Yeah old!

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    Yep. I grew up in that era. Got my driver's license in 1966 and had been reading Car and Driver and Road & Track since I was 10.

    Lola T70 MKIII is another favorite of mine, along with the Ferrari P3.
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    Nice pics - just watched on AMZ Prime documentary about Ferrari vs Ford at Lemans - was very interesting
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    Here is a great web site that talks about the Mk II winning LeMans.

    http://gt40.rkmotorscharlotte.com

    This company had the 2nd place car restored. There is even controversy about which car won the race. They discuss it on this web site.
    I think it gives a great back drop to the headline 'Ford Wins LeMans'
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    Quote Originally Posted by drjim View Post
    Yep. I grew up in that era. Got my driver's license in 1966 and had been reading Car and Driver and Road & Track since I was 10.

    Lola T70 MKIII is another favorite of mine, along with the Ferrari P3.
    I always remember reading the 'Classified' section in the back of Road & Track. Around 1970 there was always an ad for a Mark I and a Mark IV by a Dr. Harry Heinl from Hialeah Florida.
    After Ford was done with the racing program they sold all of the cars off. Apparently Harry had some sort of relationship with Ford and bought several of the cars.

    I recall reading a Peterson Publishing publication from the mid-70s that talked about him (I'm pretty sure) deciding that one of the Mk Is needed the Quad Cam Indy 255 Ford V8 in it.
    It's sort of sacrilege now to consider doing this, but hey, the guy loved these cars; why not take an Indianapolis winning Ford engine and stick it in a LeMans winning Ford car!

    I have been looking for this magazine for years to re-read the details.

    At one time or another he owned:

    #1061 – Mark 1 289 Cubic Road Spec from 1968 to 1969
    #1068 –Mark 1 289 Cubic Inch Road car from 1968 to 1971
    #1076 – Mark 1 302 Cubic Inch Lightweight Race Special from 1972 to 1976
    #J-3 – J Car 1970 to 1973
    #J-11 –J- car Unnumbered spare chassis tub never used from 1970 to 1977
    #J-7 – Mark IV 1970 to 1982

    I would love to read more about this man. He must have some stories to tell.

    Sigh.
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    Hidden Content 86 parts car maybe some day race car? 3x cars, 36x brake caliper pistons.
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    I think you missed the best part of the original GT40. The car was created as a big middle finger to Ferrari to beat them at Le Mans after old man Ferrari screwed Ford. Ferrari won Le Mans for several years straight beforehand and they haven't been back since in an official capacity. The cars originally in their first couple of years were horribly unreliable until they got Ken Miles and Shelby involved. Ford spent a ridiculous amount to money and time to pull it off.

    Personally I think the new Ford GT is brilliant. Just like the original it was made to win Le Mans and did it. Although you could kind of argued they were handed the win...

    IMO the early 2000s Ford GT is kind of like the MkiV Supra in that they were more popular after they were on sale. Back when they were new they kind of languished on the lot. I think the modability of the car greatly helped it.

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    I don't think I'd say he "screwed" Ford. He backed out of a business deal that would have almost given Ford complete control of his business.

    I'd say he backed out of GETTING screwed.....
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