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5mge stopped running(has video)

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can someone help me find out what this is ?.... ok well so this is my first car it was running but had an overheat problem, there wasnt a thermostat installed... (previous owner was a retard..) so we flushed the radiator and installed a thermostat while we cleaned it (the car sat for 6 and a half years... it was pretty dirty before we cleaned it) so after that my friend spun the belt by the power steering.... which turns the crankshaft.... we think it knocked the timing off be cause after that it would not start... he turned it the opposite way and wallah it started but was struggling to stay running .... so we figured the timing was off .... so we took off the timing belt turned the number 1 cylinder until it was tdc and re-timed the camshafts and now it makes this sound ..... WHAT THE HELL !!!!!! i need help !!!! ive been told that it could be 1.the fuel pump 2. the starter ..... im not sure which one and i dont have aot of money so any suggestions please ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NmQtoVeSzY
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I still say it is a timing issue between the head and the block, especially since the engine sounds and looks like the air is going in and right back out again (no compression like Cody said).

The other problem is it also seems like between you and your friend, you both are a little lost. So I have a few questions:
-How did you get the engine to TDC #1
-How did you "time" the cam gears?

I am sure I will think of more things to ask, but I think those are the first two main questions to answer.
How did you make sure it was at TDC? Did you line the mark on the crank pulley with the "0" on the front timing cover behind the crank pulley?

You do know there are 2 marks on each of the cam gears right? Did you make sure that at least the intake cam was correct by taking off the oil fill cap and looking down and seeing if the hole in the cam lined up with the hole in the cam tower? Did you make sure that the exhaust cam gear was also not upside down? If so, how?
I spy leaking cam seals....:sarcasm:
Yeah, those are cam gears, what are you trying to show? Well besides the fact that unless if you have messed with it again, your timing is really far off between the two cam gears, and REALLY damn far off if the crank pulley is at TDC. And the belt past the exhaust cam is really loose, you need to re-adjust the tensioner after you re-align the cam gears.

And unless if you did it, someone else swapped out at least the belt and cam gears with the 84+ ones since the 82-83 have a square toothed belt and cam gears that look like the ones that Cody posted.
As long as it was running before and the gears were not taken off, you DO NOT have to remove the bolt for the gear. If you look really closely at the gear, 82-83 had a "random" hole about midway between the teeth and the bolt, that is where the center pin is for the cam, same thing goes for the 84+, but it is the raised dot halfway between the teeth and the bolt.


And him saying that he is going to fix the timing after he shows the pictures, the timing is defiantly screwed up, I have been messing with the 5M's long enough to look at the gears and tell they were not aligned correctly for the base timing.
Look at the pictures he posted again, there is a raised dot right below the "E", that lines up with the center pin for the cam. There are two timing dots on the gears on the teeth 180dgress apart, there is only one dot in the middle area of the gear.

I thought I explained it better, but I guess I did not before.
You're saying that the camshaft pulleys' raised dot mark for the 5M, under the "E", is the true match mark to use if the car ran previously and the camshaft pulleys werent removed since? ?
Yes. I will have to see if I can locate where you were talking about the issues with your car and do some thinking.
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