5mge stopped running(has video)

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celicasupra(82)

Discussion Starter · Jun 17, 2010

can someone help me find out what this is ?.... ok well so this is my first car it was running but had an overheat problem, there wasnt a thermostat installed... (previous owner was a retard..) so we flushed the radiator and installed a thermostat while we cleaned it (the car sat for 6 and a half years... it was pretty dirty before we cleaned it) so after that my friend spun the belt by the power steering.... which turns the crankshaft.... we think it knocked the timing off be cause after that it would not start... he turned it the opposite way and wallah it started but was struggling to stay running .... so we figured the timing was off .... so we took off the timing belt turned the number 1 cylinder until it was tdc and re-timed the camshafts and now it makes this sound ..... WHAT THE HELL !!!!!! i need help !!!! ive been told that it could be 1.the fuel pump 2. the starter ..... im not sure which one and i dont have aot of money so any suggestions please ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NmQtoVeSzY

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83CelWA

· #21 · Jun 17, 2010

As long as it was running before and the gears were not taken off, you DO NOT have to remove the bolt for the gear. If you look really closely at the gear, 82-83 had a "random" hole about midway between the teeth and the bolt, that is where the center pin is for the cam, same thing goes for the 84+, but it is the raised dot halfway between the teeth and the bolt.

And him saying that he is going to fix the timing after he shows the pictures, the timing is defiantly screwed up, I have been messing with the 5M's long enough to look at the gears and tell they were not aligned correctly for the base timing.

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Dakar2008

· #22 · Jun 17, 2010

83CelWA said:
As long as it was running before and the gears were not taken off, you DO NOT have to remove the bolt for the gear. If you look really closely at the gear, 82-83 had a "random" hole about midway between the teeth and the bolt, that is where the center pin is for the cam, same thing goes for the 84+, but it is the raised dot halfway between the teeth and the bolt.

And him saying that he is going to fix the timing after he shows the pictures, the timing is defiantly screwed up, I have been messing with the 5M's long enough to look at the gears and tell they were not aligned correctly for the base timing.

in the pics he posted his gears do not have these random holes same as my 5m, ,

since he aligned the intake camshaft thru the oil filler hole, it probly means his exhaust cam is 180degrees out exactly like my friends. which would make for the sound of no compression hehe.

my friends 86 timing gear dot was pointing up but the camshaft was 180 off,

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83CelWA

· #23 · Jun 17, 2010

Look at the pictures he posted again, there is a raised dot right below the "E", that lines up with the center pin for the cam. There are two timing dots on the gears on the teeth 180dgress apart, there is only one dot in the middle area of the gear.

I thought I explained it better, but I guess I did not before.

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Dakar2008

· #24 · Jun 18, 2010

83CelWA said:
Look at the pictures he posted again, there is a raised dot right below the "E", that lines up with the center pin for the cam. There are two timing dots on the gears on the teeth 180dgress apart, there is only one dot in the middle area of the gear.

I thought I explained it better, but I guess I did not before.

ah i thought you were referring to this picture which has a hole on the gear, and only 1 dot on the teeth.

but you see here where theres 2 dots 180 apart and no hole, but ya that raised section is the dowel

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Snakebreaks

· #25 · Jul 18, 2010

so yo chris my car has been out of commision for this same issue for awhile now. You're saying that the camshaft pulleys' raised dot mark for the 5M, under the "E", is the true match mark to use if the car ran previously and the camshaft pulleys werent removed since? cause if thats the case then i dunno wtf is wrong with my engine.. my shit is timed. time to post pics. Anyone know how to steal michell diagrams?

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Snakebreaks

· #26 · Jul 18, 2010

yeah please answer that chris man, thats what I need to know. thanks!

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83CelWA

· #27 · Jul 18, 2010

Snakebreaks said:
You're saying that the camshaft pulleys' raised dot mark for the 5M, under the "E", is the true match mark to use if the car ran previously and the camshaft pulleys werent removed since? ?

Yes. I will have to see if I can locate where you were talking about the issues with your car and do some thinking.

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