'85 Mk 2 billboard lettering for rear hatch
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Note: The attachments say 1982, but they should read 1983.
I could be wrong, but I think that this is the brochure Toyota gave me when I bought my car in 1983.
I have a 1984 Brochure that I am pretty sure was given to me by Jocelyn. If I have it backwards and this is the one you sent me, I apologize.
I will try to scan the 1984 in the near future. If it's any good, I will send a copy to Tanya. She has a great collection of brochures from around the world.
The Supra Goddess - Brochures
In the 1983 USDM Brochure, notice that the two models are referred to as 'Supra' and Supra L-Type'
In the 1983 Canadian English Brochure, the two models are referred to as 'Supra' and 'Supra GTS'.
This is sort of backwards compared to the US nomenclature.
And the GTS stands for 'Grand Touring Sports' according to the Canadian Brochure.
Dale.
1985 Celica Supra P-Type; 1979 Celica Supra; 1992 Supra Turbo Targa 5spd; 1998 Supra TT Targa 6spd
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Well, I stand corrected!!! Guess they got black. Makes sense, I don't think the light grey would really stand out well on silver. Definitely looks like an oem decal on the back of that car.
That brochure is pretty cool. A few interesting things I saw...
1 - They talk about km/h in the text, yet show a US MPH instrument cluster. And the climate controls are in Fahrenheit instead of Celsius. Even the pic with the digital cluster is in MPH (isn't there a button that changes it to km/h?)
2 - I don't think we can trust that horsepower and torque graph!! Horsepower and torque are always equal at 5252 rpm (because, science) but it looks like they cross at 4600 rpm in the graph. And that horsepower curve looks suspiciously linear!
1 - They talk about km/h in the text, yet show a US MPH instrument cluster. And the climate controls are in Fahrenheit instead of Celsius. Even the pic with the digital cluster is in MPH (isn't there a button that changes it to km/h?)
2 - I don't think we can trust that horsepower and torque graph!! Horsepower and torque are always equal at 5252 rpm (because, science) but it looks like they cross at 4600 rpm in the graph. And that horsepower curve looks suspiciously linear!
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So my 83 is a P type with the flares, limited slip 4.10 and all that from the factory. My car was originally black (my paint is still factory original) so on the black cars I’m guessing the hatch and bumper were just left as is for a fully black car? Good stuff and interesting to know there was no official “P Type” naming from Toyota themselves.
Now one thing to pick on. The brochure says the GTS can come with the optional digital dash (in Jan.) Wasn’t that just the “L Model?” Just happened to catch that. All the rest sounds like classic “P Type” down to the diff. I wonder if they were planning to make the digital dash an option but then only ended up putting the in the”L’s” for whatever reason and killing that as an option for the GTS / P Type?
And yes, I do need to run and don’t need a reason. I do have an obsession with the way things should be. The supreme Toyota. The magnificent obsession is mine…just 40 years later. I’ve had other cars run me to the edge. Sure we all have. But only Supra can keep me there.
Now one thing to pick on. The brochure says the GTS can come with the optional digital dash (in Jan.) Wasn’t that just the “L Model?” Just happened to catch that. All the rest sounds like classic “P Type” down to the diff. I wonder if they were planning to make the digital dash an option but then only ended up putting the in the”L’s” for whatever reason and killing that as an option for the GTS / P Type?
And yes, I do need to run and don’t need a reason. I do have an obsession with the way things should be. The supreme Toyota. The magnificent obsession is mine…just 40 years later. I’ve had other cars run me to the edge. Sure we all have. But only Supra can keep me there.
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Nope. In Canada, both the Supra and the Supra GTS could be had with the digital dash. This is one of the minor differences between Canadian and US cars.
As a matter of fact, the 1983 Super Red car that I linked to above has a digital dashboard. My wife's 1984 GTS Automatic has the digital dash as well.
My 1983 Supra GTS with analog dash also has a 130 mph speedometer whereas the brochure shows a US model 85 mph speedometer on it. IIRC the USDM cars got the 130 mph speedometer in 1984 and up.
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Jocelyn,
Whoops! Right you are.
"The car is finished in Super Red (3D1) with color-coordinated wheel-arch flares and black bodyside moldings."
I should have read the entire article more carefully. That was my mistake, not the original posting.
I corrected the posting.
Dale
off topic, but what do those who have the digital dash think of it?
seems really cool to me, but maybe there are drawbacks
an item on my car fix list is getting my gauges working again which I have considered a digital dash to replace what I have now just because I think it looks cool
again way off topic, anyone have video of it in operation other than someone testing for speed on their bench which I have found?
seems really cool to me, but maybe there are drawbacks
an item on my car fix list is getting my gauges working again which I have considered a digital dash to replace what I have now just because I think it looks cool
again way off topic, anyone have video of it in operation other than someone testing for speed on their bench which I have found?
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The digi dash is very cool to look at in operation. It also allows easy installation of the Trip computer when you can find one (I did!)
But!
It lacks real oil pressure gage (idiot lamp),
It lacks of the battery voltage gage,
is more sensive to the good condition of the speedo cable and angled adaptor on the tranny side, so speed value can be bouncy to read.
It is not a simple task to swap over, as 2 sensors need to be changed (oil Press and Fuel level), and some body harness - behind the dash needs to be swapped too. Connectors are not the same. Only a couple of very experienced members have succeded a swap.
I have had the digi dash in both of my Canadian Ptypes (GTS!), and prefer them over the analog, just because of 80's look about them.
To each is own preferences!
But!
It lacks real oil pressure gage (idiot lamp),
It lacks of the battery voltage gage,
is more sensive to the good condition of the speedo cable and angled adaptor on the tranny side, so speed value can be bouncy to read.
It is not a simple task to swap over, as 2 sensors need to be changed (oil Press and Fuel level), and some body harness - behind the dash needs to be swapped too. Connectors are not the same. Only a couple of very experienced members have succeded a swap.
I have had the digi dash in both of my Canadian Ptypes (GTS!), and prefer them over the analog, just because of 80's look about them.
To each is own preferences!
I'm with you. Aesthetically I want that digital dash. Always have. It's like an Atari game on your dash. But, the work involved scared me and as said, they are hard to come by. I saw one for around $800 but that was a bit much for something that was going to take that much work so I passed. If you take it on you're a better man than me.
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