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Just got off the phone with ADR. 17's only come in +40mm offset. Thats the problem. Anytime a manfacturer says its a tuner wheel... that means +35mm or higher.

The picture you see on the one site is probably a 9.5 with 37 or 42 offset for the back end of the mk4, 300ZX, etc.
 

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The thing to do when you do "find" wheels is to take the time to call them and ask if they have the following:

bolt pattern: 4-114.3mm (4-4.5")
offset: 0-10mm

If you do this you will eliminate 2 things: 1) The false hope of finding a wheel; :cry: 2) Us ragging/flaming you for bringing us false hopes. :mad:

And when I say "you" I do not mean anyone in particular. I mean YOU - any member of CS forums reading this. :wink:

But as Hawaiian said.. Don't get discouraged.. keep looking. The more people looking, the better our chances. I.e. The Braid wheels. :D
 
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