Ok here is the deal, this forum is awsome. I went and logged back on to http://www.camryforums.com I posted a thread in the new users chat three days ago. Not a hi, hello welcome, or piss off, FU or USE THE SEARCH DUMB ASS. So anyone here have a camry,love their camry, miss their camry? let me know cause as i said you guys are awsome about the mkii. wish i could get the same passion over there.