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Not sure what the big deal about removing rear-wheel is for most people. Makes for very efficient tetris-style packing of bikes into trunk. Trick is to shift into smallest-cog before removing and dropping chain onto smallest-cog when re-installing.

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People use the sea sucker mounts on the twins. There is no way to mount a roof rack on those cars without drilling holes in the roof. They work well, but at least on the twins you have to be careful because it can dent the roof. Personally I just put a hitch mount on mine.
 

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I'm certain I saw one on a Copart auction that was manual. Rare as all get out I'm sure, if I'm even recalling that correctly.

I'd get one if I were going into an IS, but you wouldn't catch me dead in a 4 door.
 

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I'm certain I saw one on a Copart auction that was manual. Rare as all get out I'm sure, if I'm even recalling that correctly.

I'd get one if I were going into an IS, but you wouldn't catch me dead in a 4 door.
The regular Lexus IS300's did have 3 or 4 years of production, with Manual transmissions. But not the Sportcross version. The owner must have done a Manual swap, because all of Sportcross, came to the US, with Auto trannies. The IS300 Sportcross is a rare car in general.

Lol about 4-door cars. Why do you like coupes so much more? Most of them are cooler-looking, I give you that. The normal is300 looks great to me though. I am not a BMW guy, but the 3, 5, and 6-series from the 80s/90s were pretty sweet. Apparently the e36 m3 sedan handled better than the coupe. Also, those 90s Mercedes 190e with the 5-speed, pretty cool, (especially the Cosworth). I don't have the time and space to work on my own car though, therefore those older German cars make me nervous, (the maintenance costs).
 

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Not sure what the big deal about removing rear-wheel is for most people. Makes for very efficient tetris-style packing of bikes into trunk. Trick is to shift into smallest-cog before removing and dropping chain onto smallest-cog when re-installing.

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Thanks for that. You are right. It really is not that big of a deal. I used to be pretty quick at doing it, but lost the skill over time. Since I don't change my rear tire much, anymore. It can be a irritating at times though. (Especially when you feel kinda lazy, while setting up for the trails. Or going back from them). I use the biggest tires that can fit on my mtb frame. And it still has V-brakes lol. Sometimes when I remove the wheel, the tire rubs against the brake pad, and messes up the alignment on the V-brakes. Quite annoying and time-consuming to re-calibrate them when that happens.

Right now I drive a 3rd gen 4runner. The back seats can fold forward, and then you have a 6-foot bed, in the back of the 4runner. It is big enough that I can just toss my mountain bike in there. The whole thing, with both tires on. Obviously a car is not going to have that type of space though lol.
 

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I buy what I need, and four doors is two too many.

Since you brought up Volvo, you could catch me in one of those C30s. They are pretty sweet.
 

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Gamble, you're so easy... But so am I and I'm not afraid to admit it either. Still, I'm a little curious why you'd be hesitant at all about putting your bike in it. Rug burns on your bike perhaps? Does it not like being strapped down even though for us mere humans, it's the law? You and your bike should just get over it, get in, sit down, buckle up, shut up and hold on. Wait! Erase, erase. Shutting up isn't one of the requirements, at least not if it's only you and your bike alone together in the car. (How romantic!!!) Feel free to scream out and yell 'til (both of) your hearts are content. The bike will learn to like it. You can trust me on that, fer sureor.
 

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He is proof!

Can you see 2 full size bikes?
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just be very cautious when moving in / out.

There is protective blanket under and around bikes.
 

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Harbor Freight moving blankets are cheap insurance for the bike and the car. If you really want a car that can haul bikes easily and still be sporty, look for a first generation Matrix XRS or Vibe GT. You can stand up a road bike with the front wheel removed and have the rest of the area for cargo. Front seats fold flat for long cargo with plastic on the back. We would freak people out with the lumber runs I would do to Home Depot with that car.
 

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Yes you are right about the Matrix / Vibe.
The Honda Fit can do bikes too.
But I already have 5 cars home..
 
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