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Cap'n 2JZ's 1985 Toyota Supra Build Thread
The Silver Bullet
Click the Links Below to See More About the Subject.
I'm working to condense my entire build into this thread
To see my 2JZ R154 Swap Guide please click the link below.
http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/showthread.php?59917-The-2JZ-swap-bible-2JZGTE-MA61-build-thread&p=698183#post698183
History in a nutshell: I built this entire car in my 12x20 garage with a 7 foot tall ceiling. I did the entire swap including lifting the engine in and out numerous times for test fitting and did the paintwork in this garage and outside up the driveway, and she ran for the first time in the garage and the only work I wasnt able to do myself was the custom exhaust, so I sent the car out to a shop to have an exhaust fabbed up. If you believe you can do something, you can do it ! I picked up the tools and knowlege I needed along the way and learned how to rebuild differentials and transmissions in the process, a very worthwhile experience for me and a car I will hold onto for a long time. The amount of things you learn when you chose to do something in the right ways is incredible.
Enjoy my 2JZ swap struggle, it was very real.
Motor: 100% complete and running
http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/showthread.php?59917-The-2JZ-swap-bible-2JZGTE-MA61-build-thread
Brakes: 100% complete. 300zx brake conversion on 4 corners, discs and calipers.
http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/showthread.php?53215-Cap-n-2JZ-s-85-Supra-Build-Thread&p=619330#post619330
Suspension: 90% complete
Its kinda never done but it works.
FRONT
http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/showthread.php?53215-Cap-n-2JZ-s-85-Supra-Build-Thread&p=675648#post675648
REAR
http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/showthread.php?43648-Rear-adjustable-suspension-write-up
As of Summer 2014: 2JZGTE R154 Installed & Running
After many long nights of fitting and modding and parts searching and testing I'm really happy with the result.
The First Start (Spring 2014)
So for all of you who have waited patiently to see my project unfold I have some news! I met my springtime goals and finished up my engine swap, she started up like a champ after more than 3 years of being apart in project mode.
The first start up was not without its drama, before this video we had tried starting the motor 3-4 times and were discouraged we had a no start condition, turns out we muffed up the fuel pump connection and with a quick wire change she fired up to our amazement. The smoke we later discovered was the result of an old engine sitting for so long she dried out her valve stem seals. Once the car was running it smoked for a few weeks before I got all of what I needed to change all the valve stem seals.
And.. the first drive home was not without its drama.
Once I was confident the car would run I had it towed to have a custom tig welded stainless steel turbo back exhaust made. And, looking back I made the bit foolish decision to pick up the car at night and attempt to drive it 60 kilometers back to my house across the city on the highway with no more test drive time than a lap around the shops parking lot. I also discovered I had a bad flair bolt snag in the back so I had to get that cut off at the shop at 10pm before I set off with my car. Could have called the towing at that point but I wanted to try my luck, Roadkill it as they say!! The good news is that the car made it home, the bad news is that I chewed up a power steering pump for the various reasons I discovered afterwards.
I spent some time with an empty garage. I'll tell you this is the single weirdest feeling you can ever feel after putting so many hours into something and being so familiar with it on a day to day basis that this sight makes your stomach sink. It was swapped in this garage and it ran for the first time in this garage. And it was gone for the first time in 4 years from this garage... eerie feeling.
To my amazement, she made it home.
Exhaust Tips Installed and Sound Clip
Changing the Valve Stem Seals
When I got the parts I changed the valve stem seals, it went well with a Toyotool Valve master and a good set of valve stem seal pliers. You should do this to every Supra you own of any year and any engine, they all smoke and its because of the stem seals. After doing this I discovered finally that I had a healthy engine and was very pleased at what I had accomplished.
The rope trick
Wheel Fitment and squat under load problems. But I felt the wheel needed to sit where it is and also to accommodate the tire, so the body was adjusted accordingly. Back up in the air she went for more reworking
With the wheel and tire combo I wanted, and how I wanted the car to sit I had to do some work on the rear arches. Firstly I cut out a good strip of fibreglass in the rear arches pretty much removing the lip of the fibreglass flare completely towards the center, a good 3/4" of the arch lip had to be removed and I worked up a bit at a time to not remove more than I had to, I started with my suspension set stiff and I went softer a bit at a time under full load from the motor and found where it rubbed and took out some more until it has finally stopped, along with the fibreglass I had to pass the roller numerous times to ease the rear bodywork up and out of the way, worked good you cant tell under the rear flares, its great. I also raised it today but I don't have picture of what it looks like yet, only went up 1/2" or so in the rear to level it out.
Then I finally drove it a bit, and it was great.
It was like old times, but with boost now !
After the BCC Install, I could finally keep my foot down
Video
I don't know how fast it is yet, 105mph is as far as I've got it (on a closed circuit) how fast could it go? anyone know? 300+ whp, 3.73 gears small weight reduction, no spare tire or junk in the car. Just haven't had the place or opportunity to see where it will top out with the ups and downs of the things I had to fix on the car after the swap.
Once I fiddled with it a bit I was able to start driving it, since the spring I have changed the valve stem seals, rebuild the diff a second time because, its a long story, and I installed a solid pinion spacer the second time around to not have the same problems again. Pre load on a diffs pinion is quite important and my first rebuild ended up with an over-crushed sleeve and a whiny diff so it got rebuilt a second time now it works good with the 3.73 gears and the true track (thumbs up) I can rebuild diffs now.
Solid Diff Pinion Spacer Modification and Install
I had to modify the toyota truck solid pinion spacer to fit over my pinion shaft because I couldn't locate a Supra IRS pinion spacer in quick haste (Weir never answered my emails someone should think of stocking those spacers)
For those who like more of a visual of what the pinion spacer does have a look at this example:
Wheel hop was also an issue, this helped a lot. Solid top diff mount bushings from Raptor Racing! Buy them and change them, dont ask any questions about it.
If you have any questions or comments about the information in this thread shoot me a PM. thanks.
The Silver Bullet
Click the Links Below to See More About the Subject.
I'm working to condense my entire build into this thread
To see my 2JZ R154 Swap Guide please click the link below.
http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/showthread.php?59917-The-2JZ-swap-bible-2JZGTE-MA61-build-thread&p=698183#post698183
History in a nutshell: I built this entire car in my 12x20 garage with a 7 foot tall ceiling. I did the entire swap including lifting the engine in and out numerous times for test fitting and did the paintwork in this garage and outside up the driveway, and she ran for the first time in the garage and the only work I wasnt able to do myself was the custom exhaust, so I sent the car out to a shop to have an exhaust fabbed up. If you believe you can do something, you can do it ! I picked up the tools and knowlege I needed along the way and learned how to rebuild differentials and transmissions in the process, a very worthwhile experience for me and a car I will hold onto for a long time. The amount of things you learn when you chose to do something in the right ways is incredible.
Enjoy my 2JZ swap struggle, it was very real.
Motor: 100% complete and running
http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/showthread.php?59917-The-2JZ-swap-bible-2JZGTE-MA61-build-thread
Brakes: 100% complete. 300zx brake conversion on 4 corners, discs and calipers.
http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/showthread.php?53215-Cap-n-2JZ-s-85-Supra-Build-Thread&p=619330#post619330
Suspension: 90% complete
Its kinda never done but it works.
FRONT
http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/showthread.php?53215-Cap-n-2JZ-s-85-Supra-Build-Thread&p=675648#post675648
REAR
http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/showthread.php?43648-Rear-adjustable-suspension-write-up
As of Summer 2014: 2JZGTE R154 Installed & Running
After many long nights of fitting and modding and parts searching and testing I'm really happy with the result.
The First Start (Spring 2014)
So for all of you who have waited patiently to see my project unfold I have some news! I met my springtime goals and finished up my engine swap, she started up like a champ after more than 3 years of being apart in project mode.
The first start up was not without its drama, before this video we had tried starting the motor 3-4 times and were discouraged we had a no start condition, turns out we muffed up the fuel pump connection and with a quick wire change she fired up to our amazement. The smoke we later discovered was the result of an old engine sitting for so long she dried out her valve stem seals. Once the car was running it smoked for a few weeks before I got all of what I needed to change all the valve stem seals.
And.. the first drive home was not without its drama.
Once I was confident the car would run I had it towed to have a custom tig welded stainless steel turbo back exhaust made. And, looking back I made the bit foolish decision to pick up the car at night and attempt to drive it 60 kilometers back to my house across the city on the highway with no more test drive time than a lap around the shops parking lot. I also discovered I had a bad flair bolt snag in the back so I had to get that cut off at the shop at 10pm before I set off with my car. Could have called the towing at that point but I wanted to try my luck, Roadkill it as they say!! The good news is that the car made it home, the bad news is that I chewed up a power steering pump for the various reasons I discovered afterwards.
I spent some time with an empty garage. I'll tell you this is the single weirdest feeling you can ever feel after putting so many hours into something and being so familiar with it on a day to day basis that this sight makes your stomach sink. It was swapped in this garage and it ran for the first time in this garage. And it was gone for the first time in 4 years from this garage... eerie feeling.
To my amazement, she made it home.
Exhaust Tips Installed and Sound Clip
Changing the Valve Stem Seals
When I got the parts I changed the valve stem seals, it went well with a Toyotool Valve master and a good set of valve stem seal pliers. You should do this to every Supra you own of any year and any engine, they all smoke and its because of the stem seals. After doing this I discovered finally that I had a healthy engine and was very pleased at what I had accomplished.
The rope trick
Wheel Fitment and squat under load problems. But I felt the wheel needed to sit where it is and also to accommodate the tire, so the body was adjusted accordingly. Back up in the air she went for more reworking
With the wheel and tire combo I wanted, and how I wanted the car to sit I had to do some work on the rear arches. Firstly I cut out a good strip of fibreglass in the rear arches pretty much removing the lip of the fibreglass flare completely towards the center, a good 3/4" of the arch lip had to be removed and I worked up a bit at a time to not remove more than I had to, I started with my suspension set stiff and I went softer a bit at a time under full load from the motor and found where it rubbed and took out some more until it has finally stopped, along with the fibreglass I had to pass the roller numerous times to ease the rear bodywork up and out of the way, worked good you cant tell under the rear flares, its great. I also raised it today but I don't have picture of what it looks like yet, only went up 1/2" or so in the rear to level it out.
Then I finally drove it a bit, and it was great.
It was like old times, but with boost now !
After the BCC Install, I could finally keep my foot down
Video
I don't know how fast it is yet, 105mph is as far as I've got it (on a closed circuit) how fast could it go? anyone know? 300+ whp, 3.73 gears small weight reduction, no spare tire or junk in the car. Just haven't had the place or opportunity to see where it will top out with the ups and downs of the things I had to fix on the car after the swap.
Once I fiddled with it a bit I was able to start driving it, since the spring I have changed the valve stem seals, rebuild the diff a second time because, its a long story, and I installed a solid pinion spacer the second time around to not have the same problems again. Pre load on a diffs pinion is quite important and my first rebuild ended up with an over-crushed sleeve and a whiny diff so it got rebuilt a second time now it works good with the 3.73 gears and the true track (thumbs up) I can rebuild diffs now.
Solid Diff Pinion Spacer Modification and Install
I had to modify the toyota truck solid pinion spacer to fit over my pinion shaft because I couldn't locate a Supra IRS pinion spacer in quick haste (Weir never answered my emails someone should think of stocking those spacers)
For those who like more of a visual of what the pinion spacer does have a look at this example:
Wheel hop was also an issue, this helped a lot. Solid top diff mount bushings from Raptor Racing! Buy them and change them, dont ask any questions about it.
If you have any questions or comments about the information in this thread shoot me a PM. thanks.
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