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I went by the "E-Team Hobbyplex" today for the first time.

It's run by an Old Guy like us, Dave, and we had quite a chat about how things were 30+ years ago when we both got into the hobby.

And he's also a muscle car collector, with quite an AMC collection. Javelins, S/C Ramblers, and Rebel Machines, some fully restored, some drivers, and a few parts cars.

It's a big indoor carpet track set up as a road course, but they can change it to an oval, or add a bunch of carpeted jumps, whoop-de-doos, and other things to make it an "off road" course.

Definitely looks like a fun place to hang out!
 

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Bob and I had the most fun on an indoor CARPET track with our trucks.
Stadium truck class:
Foam tires,17 turn brushed motors.Tire "saucing" allowed.
6 cell Nickle -metal packs,2 WD only.

Wheelies on the straightaway.Fantastic crashes with the open wheel trucks.
Massive and multiple front suspension snapping against the boards. BAM!

The announcer: "THAT will set off the air bags!"

"Got any lower left control arms?No,but I have 4 right ones!"
The RPM arms were not available back then.

I know the truck set ups for jumps and whoops on carpet.

The 4 WD sedan class was the most popular. VERY fast cars!Really fun to watch.
See the parts selection,Jim: Mostly for sedan cars.
Racing? Not me,anymore. It was every Wednesday for 5 seasons.
I'm more of a mechanic than a driver and I had some unusual set ups,that raised a few eyebrows.

Your track: WOW! Got parts?
http://www.e-teamhobbyplex.com
 

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It's a nice place, and I might just let myself get hooked building a "Vintage Trans Am" car. Somewhat restrictive rules to keep costs down, and I found an "approved" body for a 1971 Pontiac Trans Am, pretty damn close to the '73 that I raced back in Illinois.

I ordered a Futaba 4PM the other day, as the Spektrum radios that come with a RTR ARRMA are known to be marginal at best. If I decide to build a VTA car, I can get another receiver and a small steering servo, and the radio is taken care of.

No, I won't buy one of the top-of-the-line $1200 chassis kits! I'm thinking more along the lines of a $125 Sakura XI Sport. The ESC, motor, and battery are all tightly restricted, and those items will cost about $300. And the track uses these little electronic transponders for the timing and scoring, so I'll have to get one of those.

Ruh-Roh!! Looks like I've already decided...........guess I'll go shopping.....!

BTW....I have been working on the Supra! Got the front bumper sanded out, primed, sanded, primed, sanded.......and since it's going to be in the high 70's/low 80's next week, I'll FINALLY get it painted.

YAY!!!! :dj_smiley
 

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That will be a good winter time fun for you,Jim.

The restrictions for the equipment is to keep it down to driving skills,NOT cubic dollar stuff. Been there.
The AMG transponders may be cheaper to buy on E Bay,used.BROKEN EARS ARE OK
Some ESC's are a nightmare to program.Better to set your driving style at your radio. I like a LOT of "drag brake",similar to a LOT of compression for slowing down for a corner.ABS,if you will.

You will meet a lot of racers at that track that can help with your set up.
Perhaps there is minimum weight restriction.Approved bodies and ride height rules as well.
It really is not about the equipment,but the set up and.... TIRES!

OH,we are getting back to our Supra's,now?
Yes,this was a derailment.
 

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yuk-yuk!

We should go start an R/C car thread over at the water cooler.....

I noticed a couple of the transponders were glued in on some of the cars I looked at. Hey, it's lighter than using hardware!

The rules are here: http://www.usvintagetransam.com/rules/

The ESC is not allowed to adjust the timing, the motors have to meet certain specs, and the battery pack is restricted to a 2S of no more than 7000mAh. Tires are all the same, treaded, no belts, and the rim width, offset, and style, is restricted. The style has to be "period correct", which means I'll either be using 8-spoke "Minilite" rims, or 5-spoke "American Torq-Thrust" rims.

Yep, be a nice warm place with friendly folks to spend the occasional "snow day".
 

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Those rules are fine,but out dated. Novak is out of business. I read the rules carefully.
"Blinky" ESC's are a good rule. Tire restrictions are MANY.There IS a minimum weight restriction. No rule about ceramic bearings,other than in the brush less motor. It's to keep the cars pretty equal. Good.
No front diff one ways. Use the largest MAH hard case battery allowed @ 100 C.They do.
ROAR approved 25.5 BL motors.
The rest is driving skill and suspension set ups. Fun class!

I have some speed secrets,when you are ready,Jim.:naughty:
 

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Time to dust this thread off and get back to work on Ms. Swan!

Cleaned up, swept out, and decluttered half the garage today. Tomorrow I'm going to work on the "Toyota Side" of the garage, and get it cleaned up.

Plans for the warmer weather are to finish repainting the front bumper, get the front grill, fogs, and signal lamps back together, and DRIVE her a bunch. Even though the full-synthetic oil in her only has a couple of hundred miles, it's going to get changed the first time I take her out and get her warmed up.

New carpet will be coming, along with replacing the heater core while the interior is out. The door panels/cards and rear interior trim is going to a local shop, along with the glove box lid and wire support from the leather shift boot so they can all get repaired. The wife has volunteered to clean the seat fabric once I have the seats out, and I'll clean and lube the seat tracks before I turn the seats over to her.

Window tracks and mechanism will get cleaned, lubed, and adjusted while the door panels are off, and my slick JDM aftermarket mirrors will go on.

Should be a good, fun Summer this year, and I'm looking forward to attending some local car stuff, although I haven't connected with any other "Import People" here.

Been here 2-1/2 years, and I still haven't met the guy a block-and-a-half away with the SDR MKIV!
 

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Doc, sounds like a plan Sir!!
 

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Some of you follow me on FakeBook, but I haven't posted any updates here, so I thought I should let my original MKII Family know what's been going on.

Big project(s) for this summer are to finish the bumper refurbishment, get the nose all back together, and then DRIVE her a bunch this summer. I'd like to replace the carpeting, too, but we'll see.

Got the bumper all sanded, ground out the cracks and dings, filled them with the 3M/Bondo bumper repair stuff, and sanded it down. I dropped the ball at this point by using too rough a grit, and no primer other than the adhesion promoter, which is clear, and pretty thin.

This is the first coat of the filler in the dings I could easily see.

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Sanded them all out,

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And then, because I was over anxious to get some color on it, I sprayed the Dupli-Color "Trim and Bumper Paint" on it.

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After the paint cured overnight, I knew I'd be redoing it. The finest grit I used was 150, and it left some nasty sanding scratches. It's hard to get a decent picture, but this one might give you an idea how BAD it looks.

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And I also found several good-sized dings I missed on the sides of the bumper because they just didn't show up in the sanded paint.

SO.......I ground out the dings, ordered some more flexible bumper repair resin, and this time I ordered several cans of SEM "Primer for Flexible Parts" so I can have a guide-coat to spot the low/high areas and fill them before I spray the topcoat on.

Oh, well, this is the first time I've ever done this type of repair, so live and learn!
 

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My upper bumper looks the SAME way! Lack of preparation and the wrong type of paint was used. Fish eyes!
Lower bumper looks OK, still.(y)
I ordered the prep and the clear from SEM with Amazon. Sandpaper? Good=all the way to 1500. I have lots of tape and wax remover in stock, already. EZ mask on a roll, too. I am NOT a body man at all. Maybe I'll be happy with the results, IF I do it right, this time. ;) Thanks, Jim.
 

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I'm not much of a body-and-paint guy either, Dave!

I should have known better, and I do "know better", but got in a hurry. Even though the surface felt smooth with my fingers, my touch didn't pick up the deep scratches.

Time to start sanding again.
 

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I did my front bumper like two decades ago with some rattle can products after scuffing a corner, indeed I think it was the duplicolor bumper and trim paint. I sanded it and polished it out to a gloss and it looked pretty good the first few years. By about ten years ago it was starting to show some fine spider webbing and now I'm starting to get anxious to repaint the whole car, but I guess ten to twenty years isn't a bad service life for a rattle can job.
 
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The Dupli-Color paint went on nicely, and if it wasn't for my poor surface prep, I would have been happy with it.

Oh, well....back to square one...
 

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Annnnnd....Here We Go Again!

Ground out the dings I missed, feathered the paint around them so the filler would have some additional are to stick in/on, and then sanded the whole shebang again, this time with 150 grit.

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The black paint works great for a "guide coat", and wonder of wonders, after I'd sanded it down it's much smoother. Hopefully the flexible parts primer is thick enough that it will fill in some of the minor pits and scratches that will remain after I get the filler applied and sanded out.

I'd considered pulling the cover off and having a body shop do it, but I just can't bear to pull a nicely fitting part off the car and then fight with it getting it back on.

And if you think my body and paint skills suck, you should see my panel alignment skills, or lack thereof!
 

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HIP HIP hooray for rookies who will to try body and paint work!
My car, my rules.
I'm not afraid to try again, either. 🆒 🍻
 

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This is not, and never will be (in my lifetime!), a "Pebble Beach" car. When I was doing the big push to get ready for Supras in Vegas, I got to the point where I said "Screw it! It's Cosmetic!", and pressed on regardless.

Now I'm trying to correct some of the worst cosmetic issues, and the front bumper is number one on my Hit List. Along with getting the paint acceptable, I also have to fix the lower edge of the airdam where the front edge of the engine undercover usually attaches. My undercover was missing when I got the car, and it allowed the lower edge to snag on things. It's not too badly beat up, but I've got to get some aluminum angle mounted on it to keep it from hanging down, snagging on things, and looking really "unsightly".

Then I can get the grill installed, along with the lamps/turn signals, my NEW side mirrors, and get out there and DRIVE THIS THING!

I might have a line on a heated/secure garage I can rent for the winter, and get all my mechanical work knocked out while it's too crummy to drive it this winter.
 

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Don't waste your time with that Duplicolor bumper paint. It will look terrible no matter what. It kind of has the sheen of spotchy shiny primer. Sand it down to 320 or 400. You should really prime it first and block it out to find all the flaws. I would recommend using gloss paint so its OEM, but if you really want Satin look at SEM bumper paint instead.
 
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I still have my virgin undercover and I painted the top of it FLAT WHITE. Why? So I can see the tools and nuts that I drop down there. Also, it reflects the light better than boring black.

You have motivated me to do a bumper DO-OVER.
Is your car lowered a little ,Jim?

Bumper and attached parts and YES, your new race car side mirrors!!!!!!!!!!!

Fort Collins gets that white stuff. I will not drive my Supra in that crap ever again.
Who wants L type snow tires? NO ONE.

If the heated and secure garage is for rent, go for it. More space for other projects at your place.
Looking out of the door from my shed in February. I don't like it!
 

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If I hadn't blown it on the surface prep, the Dupli-Color would have looked acceptable to me. In the places where the bumper and paint were still OK, the recoat looked fine. It was a uniform sheen, and was a 99% match for the wiper arms and window trim I redid.

And I have SEM Flexible Parts Primer on the way. It'll get a couple of coats of that, and I'll hand block it with 600 or 800.

The whole car needs to be painted, and I don't have the resources to do that. It was never waxed in it's life, unless you count the car wash "spray wax" it might have had, and the paint is critically thin in places. Doing a "100% nice" bumper would be a waste, and would likely look out of place on the car.
 

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Yeah, we get the white stuff here, too, Dave! We got clipped with 24" of light, fluffy stuff last winter, and with the 20MPH winds blowing it and drifting it, the whole town just about shutdown for a couple of days. Took me two days to plow the driveway and sidewalk. My cordless electric snowblower had enough juice in the batteries to make one 24" path down the sidewalk, and several 24" cuts down the driveway. Then the batteries pooped out, and they take TEN HOURS to fully recharge.

I'm getting a gas-powered one for the coming winter!

This car will never be intentionally driven in snow, and if I get caught in the rain, well, that happens, but I'd probably pull under a shelter and wait it out.

Yes, those "Magic Mirrors" I bought from another forum member here. I guess I'm not as into these cars as some of you guys are. I thought they were neater than sliced bread when they first came out, but never knew anybody who owned one, so never got into the Japan-only stuff that was out there. They're very nice mirrors, and I like them because the mirror is larger than those useless things that Toyota put on the cars, but I just don't understand why people get rabid over them. I supposed they're like some very low-production "Holy Grail" radios like I'm more used to dealing with! Maybe I should look at these as the "Hallicrafters SX-88" of mirrors.....
 
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