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I just can't get into the F&F movies. I asked around as to what was considered the "best" one, got a bunch of replies, and tried to watch it.

I really did.

I guess I'm too old.....
 

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Yeah,I sat through a few of 'em. The one above has a bit of comedy included,I was told.
Most have too much computer generated stuff......:SM130 (1):

I like action movies,car chases and guns involved.
John Wick,Blues brothers,Baby driver,Drive,The Driver,Falling Down,Terminator,True Lies.
Sci-Fi,too.Star Wars,Predator,venom,Ex Machina,Time Machine......Crime and cop movies.
NO HORROR movies!
 

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I just saw this one, thoroughly enjoyed it. Go see it on a big screen with a crazy sound system, sounds so good.
 

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We were supposed to go see it today, but we got clobbered with over 20" of snow.

Most of the city is shutdown.....
 

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For pure racing movies, the absolutely best, bar none, is "Lemans" starring the King of Cool, Steve McQueen.

The plot is crap, the dialog minimal. Who cares? The racing cinematography is startling superb.

The film predated CGI and is stunning. Most of the film was shot at Lemans between June and November in 1970. The film company tried to enter a real Porsche 917 in the race, but was not accepted. (It was to have been driven by Steve McQueen and Jackie Stewart). A 3L Porsche 908/2 film car with film cameras mounted was actually entered in the race and finished 9th overall, 2nd in the 3L Prototype class. It was not classified at the end because it had not completed an adequate number of laps due to having to stop and continually change film cartridges.

At one point, crew members urged the producers to stop changing film as they felt they had a chance to win the actual race overall!

Two Lola T70s were dressed up in Porsche 917 and Ferrari 512 bodywork and actually crashed under remote control for the film. At the time they were obsolete junk, now people cry when they hear this.

There are scenes filmed on the 240 mph Mulsanne straight with close ups of a 917 coming up on a 512, pulling around, and passing. This was filmed by having a film camera on a 6 foot bar attached to the rear of the film car. When the car moves to pass, the bar is unpinned and swings to the rear to allow a side view of the 512 being overtaking in extreme close up. Apparently the camera swing severely unbalanced the film car and it nearly crashed.

If you love any automobiles, you HAVE to see this movie.

Here is a link to a great web site that discussed the film car

https://www.stuttcars.com/about-porsche/le-mans-film/

Steve McQueen is a god!

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I liked Ford vs Ferrari or Lemans '66, but all the family parts just drug it out and was pointless IMO. It would have been a lot tighter film if they minimized that and kept it closer to two hours and focused on the racing. Then again I saw a review someone was complaining the film wasn't woke enough and was all white men and not enough alphabet characters :eekfacepalm: so I guess you can't win. They were also a little loose with history and made it seem Carroll Shelby and Ken Miles did everything.

Hobbs and Shaw was ridiculous. After a couple of more FnF movies Dom is going to be pulling wheelies in the Charger on the moon :rolleyes: I guess they're right you start out in petty crimes stealing DVD players and next thing you know you're high jacking nuclear subs in Russia :sarcasm:
 

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I think some of the allure of the F&F movies is the sort of tongue-in-cheekness of it all. I almost look at it more like a comedy or what a child would imagine in his bedroom playing with hotwheels and legos. Under that guise it's enjoyable.

As far as actual racing movies I very much enjoyed Rush.
 

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My next pair of turkeys will be Rambo last blood and terminator Genesis.Dark Fate.
Hobbs and Shaw was kid stuff. Yeah,it was not my taste.

Try... The Terminal with your wives.Hanks and Jones.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0362227/
 

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I would recommend Dark Fate! Its worth seeing just to see Linda Hamilton back on screen, kicking ass as the most ass kicking grandma ever on screen! The movie as a terminator sequel is pretty decent, as good or better then anything made after the original T2 for sure. I know a low bar, but myself and many think T3 was actually pretty decent. I think this is either on par with it or better. The story is quite good, for the things they wanted to happen for this film, (Arnie and Linda coming back) its about the best you could hope for, and James Cameron's involvement can be felt everywhere. That said, he didn't direct it, and it doesn't feel like one of his movies, which is a bit of a shame.

The F&F movies aren't for everyone thats for sure, and they aren't all good either. The first one is a good flick, though super cheesy dialogue. At least all of the car stunts were largely done for real so it doesn't feel as fake as some of the later ones. 2 is shit, just avoid it at all costs. 3 is actually my favourite, though it has little to do with the series (untill much later!). 4 is blah, but it starts to pull the series back to its roots (But has the worst CG action crap of any of them in it). 5 to 7 are all pretty much the same movie, and all equally good and are responsible for the franchise becoming what it is today. But they should have ended it with 7. Brian Walker dieing was the right point to walk away from all of these characters and the situations they are in (they all become multi-millionaires in 5 lol). 8 has the action and quality of the early ones, but the franchise lost its soul, they shouldn't have made it IMO. I'm expecting the same for 9.

I'm going to see Ford vs Ferrari tonight!

Lemans, god dang, I still havn't gotten around to seeing that for some reason. I need to see if its on any of my streaming services. But I have trouble beliving its better then John Frakenheimer's amazing Gran Prix (shot in 66). The behind the scenes documentary on that movie (its on the dvd) is almost as amazing, crazy story about how that was made.
 

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If anyone is interested in a little more background on Netflix watch "Shelby American" or "24 hour war". Both are from the same director and share some footage. The first focuses on Shelby's career and the Cobra, Daytona, GT40, the GT350 and quickly moves thru the rest. They mention the 2000GT for a minute or two. A lot of good interviews with people that worked there during that time. 24 hr war focuses on the Gt40 and Ferrari and shows both sides.
 

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Cool, I will have to see that!

Well saw F vs F. Its really good! And pleasantly, they got the details pretty good. Just keep in mind when you see it, the point in time from the first attempt at Lemans to big race at the end, 2 years and another loss at Lemans have actually passed. From the trailers, I was afraid they were going to condense the entire story into the period of a single year, which would have been far from the truth. It was on the 3rd attempt when they pull it off (so 3 years in), and god knows how many millions spent. The film sort of ignores the 2nd attempt, but it acknowledges a big chunk of time passed.

Really good as a movie movie too though. Actually reminded me of Apollo 13 quite a big. A list actors, writing, directing budget etc. Not just a movie for car folk, though like I said they got that stuff right.
 

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MOVIES:
I enjoyed Rush much more than Ford vs. Ferrari,by far. Highly suggested to see.Free would be even better.
The "Rat Face" guy was great in his role as was his character.

What is the next car movie?
24 hour war?
 

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If you enjoy car action scenes in movies like The Transporter, Baby Driver, Ronin etc, check out Michael Bay's latest on Netflix, 6 Underground. Just be aware its M Bay, if you hate his stuff you will hate it, if you loved his old stuff, Bad Boys, The Rock etc, you will probably enjoy it. Warning, its pretty violent, crazy collateral damage!
 
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