Went on a short trip today, encountered a late 70's camaro, had traction bars, fairly strong sounding small block, 4 speed. He thought he would try and stay in front of me, I passed him in third gear around 5000rpm, shifted into 4th and walked off from him. I was about 13 miles from my house, when i got there he was a full 3 minutes behind. He couldn't keep up in the curves, suspension too bound up with traction bars etc. He should have left well enough alone, or spent the money on sway bars and poly bushings........