I have an early 86 MKII and was wondering if anyone knows how many were built before the MK3 took over ?
but according to that article, he says the 1986 model was included with the 1985 production numbers, so that doesnt really help us figure out how many updated 1985 models came with a 1986 title. Even though they are the same car, i think we all wanna know exactly how many where badged 1986, and there where slight modifications (addition of 3rd brakelight etc) for historical reasons alone, and those differences mentioned, the 1986 Celica Supra is a car of its own year with its own place.Production numbers are right at the end of this link,http://www.hemmings.com/hsx/stories/2006/06/01/hmn_buyers_guide1.html I'm not sure if that's U.S or worldwide.:thumbsup:
(didn't search - figured we're at a good place to discuss this)The info on the Hemmings is crap sadly, if you add up all the numbers, it falls short. Highest serial number in this thread: 177013-114459= a difference of 62554.....That is assuming there was no skipped numbers, of course.
I don't think any manufacturer placed sequential VIN numbers on their cars. I'm sure there are a handful of exceptions though!(didn't search - figured we're at a good place to discuss this)
Agree - Even if you use all of '86 prod -- there were only 148,282 built
How can we have numbers in the 177,000? - What am I missing?
So, they skipped numbers is a possibility?
Corvettes had sequential numbers, BUT there are a number of exceptions that could happen. Potentially Supras could have the same sort of exceptions. Most prevalent, a defect would be found and the car pulled from the assembly line and set aside for some times days or on occasion (as happened with several labor strikes), months before the defect would be corrected and the car inserted back into the assembly line for completion. As with old Corvettes tho, the trim tag with the date did not show the vin. I don't know which was assigned or attached first, but I guess it doesn't matter as either way it could get out of sequence. With Supras, the trim tag also shows the vin but the real official vin tag is on the cowl under the windshield so I guess a trim tag attached later might have simply been stamped with whatever vin was already on the cowl. In the Corvette world, these were exceptions rather than the rule and so for the most part, they were reasonably sequential. You'd think that if Supras followed the same pattern then finding the highest vin number would lead us to a pretty good estimate regardless of what the trim tag says.I don't think any manufacturer placed sequential VIN numbers on their cars. I'm sure there are a handful of exceptions though!