L-Type vs P-Type

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MK2Racer

Discussion Starter · May 7, 2003

I had a question. I was reading on SupraForums that 82 Ltypes had NO fender flare, 14x5.5 wheels, and 85mph speedo. I have an 82, according to the VIN it is an L Type, BUT it has flares, 14x7, and 130mph speedo (analog dash). The original hatch and bumper were black, car was white. Has red cloth interior, and front windshield antenna. Am I confused or what? I thought it was an L, but maybe it is a P and the vin is wrong??? Is there anywhere else it will say the type?

-Ken

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SilverMk2

· #21 · May 15, 2003

C/Tm/A/Tm 25SLP21F292A43DL

Sure your wrote this down right?

25S would be the color code, my source doesn't list this code
LP21 is the interior code (leather something)
F292 is the rear axle (4.11 non LSD)
A43DL is the tranny code (automatic)

Usually the easy way to see if a car has been repainted is to look in the door jam up by the hinges. Usually nobody repaints this area.

CJSREDPRA

· #22 · May 16, 2003

Okay........

Things are still a little bit confusing, but now we're getting somewhere.

Can you please take another closer look at the paint code & the interior code again????

25S looks a little strange for a paint code. 99% of the time, the last digit is a number & not a letter. So if you could take a look at this again.... Thanks.

{edit} I just checked 3 of my paint color sources & 25S does not exist as a Toyota color.

On the interior code, can you take another look at the 2nd digit & make sure it's the correct one????? I'm wondering if that digit is actually a "F" rather than a "P". Depending on how dirty the plate is, or the weird angle you may be looking at it, it's easy to get it wrong.

In regards to the interior, this much I know..... FX21 is the Black Cloth P-Type seats for 82 - 83. LF21 is the Black Leather L-Type seats for a 83 & possibly a 82. So I need to know for sure if that 2nd digit is a F or a P.

THIS MUCH I'm able to figure out at the moment!!!! It looks like you were correct the first time & this car might actually be a L-Type car. The fact that you have: 1. A US spec vehicle. 2. The Digital Dash cluster. 3. A Non-LSD rear diff. All of these clues are pointing towards this being a L-Type car. None of the US Spec P-Type's had digital dash's or Non LSD rear diff's, they all had analog dash's & LSD rear's.

Me thinks someone went through alot of trouble to turn their MKII into a P-Type CLONE :shock: . So yes, your MKII is somewhat unique, but it didn't come this way from the factory!!!!

And yes, please still send me pictures.

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82Ltype

· #23 · May 16, 2003

Woops!

Ok, yeah you guys were right, I did get the code wrong. I was outside in the dark at like 2am with a flashlight last night copying it, guess the glare made the numbers change. Ok here's the correct one(yeah it was dark AND raining out there tonight BTW):
2B8LF292A43DL

I also checked the door by the hings and it's the same silver color as the rest of the car. ???
Ok, let me know whats up with this correct code.
Ps. I'm emailing the one front/side pic I have to you both tonight. Brian

CJSREDPRA

· #24 · May 16, 2003

WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rob & Aaron !!!!! I FIGURED IT OUT!!!!!

8) :shock:

Was talking to Brian (82Ltype) outside the forums via email & I was finally able to get everything translated !!!! Here's the scoop.

Paint Code: 2B8. According to my paint sources, he has the 2-Tone Silver Metallic/Gray Metallic Clear Coat on his MKII. He also sent me some more pictures of his Supra & the rear bumper & the hatch have been repainted the body color. The entire car is now some other strange looking silver color & it no longer has the 2-tone paint scheme.

Interior Code: LF21. With the above mentioned paint scheme, I'm now 100% sure that he has the LF21 Black Leather L-Type seats.

At some point in it's past, the car was repainted & the P-Type flares were added on. :? :shock: The 2B8 2-tone paint scheme was only available on the L-Type's, so this is indeed a real L-Type MKII that someone cloned into a P-Type.

Heh.... I guess now you can say Brian's MKII is confused???? :lol: 8)

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82Ltype

· #25 · May 16, 2003

Well, I have a custom Ltype!

Kudos and Thanks to Chris Eng for helping me figure all this out.
Ok, according to my paint codes and Chris, my 82 Ltype was originally sivler metallic above the side trim and below the side trim it was gray metallic. The rear hatch and bumper were originally black as well. Now, when i got the car it is entirely Silver metallic, bumper, hatch and all. It also has the flares from a ptype, also metallic silver. So it has been repainted to all metallic silver. Whoever did it did a good job! I really could not tell. So I have probably the only Ltype with Ptype flares in the Washington, DC area and maybe the East coast.. How cool is that? i would never have known. Well, so much for my restoration to original stock plans...Hmmm... Now I need a new plan! I need to get some body work done and repaint the silver anyway. Then maybe a 7mgte? That'll work!
thanks everybody who helped with this. it's really cool to know. Brian

RobMK2

· #26 · May 21, 2003

hehe someone definately enjoyed that car enough to transform it... after seeing the differences between the two models metalergy, I had once told a friend it was near impossible to put flares on an L-type. Aparently, it isn't

well the mystery is solved. you have a story to tell now, 82ltype

ZZT231

· #27 · May 26, 2003

Re: L type or P type

82Ltype said:
Ok, here's my info:
... Model # MA61L-BLPQFA

As I read it the B-A means thus,

B=Supra
L=liftback
P=4 speed auto
Q=high grade lux. or performance
F=twincam, efi
A=usa spec.
...

So MA61R-BLPQEQ

Means MA61R - Supra in Right Hand Drive Format
B=Supra
L=liftback
P=4speed auto
Q=high grade lux. or performance
E=SOHC, efi
Q=Australian Spec.

Cheers.

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Bonerdude

· #28 · Jun 6, 2003

i was wondering what anyone could tell me about the specs of my car the last set of codes are.
- 3D1 YS4 F283 W58

Also i would like to kno where you can find the production date.

Bonerdude

· #29 · Jun 6, 2003

sorry i was not as specific... i would like to kno the paint scheme/ color and what the interior is/was

CJSREDPRA

· #30 · Jun 8, 2003

Bonerdude,

What year is your MKII??? 82 - 84????

3D1 I believe is the code for Super Red (not Super deep Red, which is 3F2).

YS4??? You're missing 1 more number at the end. Interior codes should be 4 digits. Either way, I'll have to get back to you on this one. From what I can remember, the YS code at least indicates a Cloth interior.

F283 I believe is the 4.30 LSD rear, since you have the W58 5-speed.

Production date can be found on the drivers door build plate, unless the door has been swapped out.

Bonerdude

· #31 · Jun 8, 2003

sorry bout that...it is YS24...what is the color differences between super red and super deep red? also kind of a bummer...i got an 83...i always thought it was an 84

SilverMk2

· #32 · Jun 8, 2003

Super Red (which is 3D1) is basically plain red. Super Deep Red is a much darker red. YS24 would probably be grey pinstripes, possibly burgandy. Besides I don't believe they had burgandy interiors till '85 though. Could be wrong on that one though.

CJSREDPRA

· #33 · Jun 9, 2003

Grrrrrrr.....

Not sure what YS24 is. Esp on a 83. Most Super Red 83 P-Type's had the Black Cloth, which is a different interior code. Got me on this one.

Super Red is a Bright Red, while Super Deep Red is more of a Dark Red.

Aaron. Maroon interiors first came on the MKII's in the 84 model year, not 85.

MK2Racer

Discussion Starter · #34 · Jun 9, 2003

My 82 has maroon cloth inteior.
My car is a total mix-n-match, but I believed that the int. was stock. Apparently not...

Supraa_luva

· #35 · Jun 9, 2003

are you referring to only P-types, only cloth interiors, or just ones that don't come standard with that colour type interior?... cause my 83' L-type has leather burgundy interior.

marlowmk2

· #36 · Jun 10, 2003

my 82 ltype parts car has red interior in it

Bonerdude

· #37 · Jun 10, 2003

its odd that my car is an 83 because i have the flip up door handles and the wrap around turn signals....i checked on the door and it says november of 83...also the back up lights are set to the inside of the liscence plate and i also have supra going all the way across also i have the defroster, cruise control are all around the gauges on the little shield for the speedo and what not...

trdmkii

· #38 · Jun 10, 2003

Bonerdude said:
its odd that my car is an 83 because i have the flip up door handles and the wrap around turn signals....i checked on the door and it says november of 83...also the back up lights are set to the inside of the liscence plate and i also have supra going all the way across

a november 83 car would actually be considered an 84 model, just like with new cars, the next years come in the fall. I have a 5/84 84 model and a 10/84 85 model, its crazy but thats how it goes.....

Bonerdude

· #39 · Jun 10, 2003

ohh yea...that is right...it all makes sense now...thanks for that info...i still wish my car said 84...i been tellin everyone that asks it was an 84..now i jus feel like a liar for some reason

Supraa_luva

· #40 · Jun 10, 2003

Bonerdude said:
ohh yea...that is right...it all makes sense now...thanks for that info...i still wish my car said 84...i been tellin everyone that asks it was an 84..now i jus feel like a liar for some reason

but it IS an 84, lol.

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