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So I was thinking, and this has been something that has annoyed me as computers have been around for quite some time now. I myself have been on computers for about 22 years now. Back when IRC was starting to kick in well and what not, you HAD to watch yourself because if you didn't you were DONE in that channel. So something I figured out long ago there should still apply...

Lurk Before you leap.

I use it to this day. If I'm on a new forum I will tend to just lurk for quite sometime...i may throw up the occasional blurb or whatever, but until I get down to knowing what the hell is going on on that forum I'll not say much...

Some blurbs of what Lurk before you Leap means, taken from various websites:

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http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule3.html:
When you enter a domain of cyberspace that's new to you, take a look around. Spend a while listening to the chat or reading the archives. Get a sense of how the people who are already there act. Then go ahead and participate.

http://www.all-biz.com/RelId/5538/ISvars/default/Internet_Newsgroups:_Lurk_Befo.htm:
Nowhere online are the rules of Netiquette (Internet etiquette) more applicable than in newsgroups. While there are a few newsgroups that exist solely for advertisements, most have specific rules forbidding blatant marketing messages.

By jumping in and screaming things like, "Hey! Come check out my web site," you risk offending the participants and damaging your image. For more information on Netiquette, visit Florida Atlantic University's guide at http://www.fau.edu/irm/about/netiquette.php.

Before you post your first message, sit on the sidelines for a while to learn how participants play the newsgroup game. This "lurking" gives you a sense of what participants in each newsgroup expect to learn from the community, how they interact with each other and how you can add value to their conversations. Participate only after you've gathered this information.

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I think it would be great if schools starting giving Nettiquette classes...back in the hayday of IRC, BBS', Chat rooms, USENET, before forums really kicked off, people where harsh on noobs comin in and just blasting the channel...that was the one and only time those people would be in that channel.

I spent alot of time in IRC 8-14 years ago, and managed to keep myself in most the channels...

But hell everyone gets pissed at some point. You just have to know how the forum will react before you really do something that could be seen as bad nettiquette...and one thing is for sure...respect the OPS...(admins/wtfever...)
 

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This is actually a really good point. Possibility of a sticky? Just for the new members so they don't get flamed then complain about although most get by fine.
 

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I agree but in the end if you get pissed off because we all are razing you like most people do to "rookies". Somtimes putting your foot in your mouth you deserve what you get AND then again somtimes they dont. AND THIS CAPS LOCK THING GETS ANNOYING.
sorry about the little rant but if your an adult you should be an adult on this site.

PS i loved IRC
 

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Cary, I remember just lurking back on SOGI and Yahoo, as I knew nothing of these cars at the time. I am a relative NOOB, to the computer scene, having only been on one, since 99.

As mentioned in the now "already" Deletd thread ... Charging in like a Bull in a China Shop, won't get you very far.

Of course, those types can be a great source of entertainment, until the mods take the fun away :D
 

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We need to bring back "The Toilet" section again, i am not sure if that's what its name was, but it was funnay
 

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The Toilet was OK ....


Since our latest "friend" couldn't play by the rules in OUR HOUSE :D I decided, being the ass that I am, and a bit bored .. ie. not in the mood to work on cars last night, to go to HIS house, and educate him on how to join a forum.

http://www.jassics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79


I'll let him know who I am soon enough. Unless he comes here to lurk, and figures it out.:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

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First forum that I posted a lot on was Xbconnect back during the days of Halo 1. I got myself flamed basically the first thread I ever posted, but you hang in there and you become one of the flamers not the flamed haha.

Unfortunately, I don't have much to say here cause I don't have enough technical/mechanical knowledge to participate in many of the threads. But I love my Supra, and want to learn to do whatever work I can, until I actually need to do work I don't have anything serious to talk about really haha. So I check the place out everyday just reading and seeing what you guys are doing. I don't get on your bad side, you don't get on mine haha.

Sometimes though, is it really necessary? Getting mad at a guy who's making a new thread instead of using Search or asking that question that someone just got answered in the thread above his? Human nature we tend to think that we're the only people experiencing our problem. Someone may have a similar problem, but it isn't the same ya know? If you just bustin the dude's balls for kicks that's fine I guess haha, but I can say I think some take it a lil too serious. The forum gonna be the forum, and I'm sure if there are twenty threads that say "What can I do to get more HP?" the mods will take care of that ya know?

To end this, all I'm saying is tolerance helps keep peace.

Respect, Dready
 

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aaa XBconnect i was there back befor you were able to talk you had to stand still and type and hope someone saw you
 

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I like what Dreadydiggs said....
"Unfortunately, I don't have much to say here cause I don't have enough technical/mechanical knowledge to participate in many of the threads. But I love my Supra, and want to learn to do whatever work I can..."

I know a couple of people from the forums here *high-five to Shawn*, but for the most part, I'm a lurker.....I come on here pretty much every day, and scour the threads for new info....and as your links show, Junkie, there are a LOT of redundant posts.....I'd like to believe that people will try to search it out before they post, but what can you do? Myself, I'm stoked that celicasupra.com is here....there's a lot of people who seem really cool and totally dig supras, and there's a huge amount of knowledge on this site----
Thanks, guys!!!
 

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Netiquette on web forums is still part of a subculture that not everyone shares for the reasons some have mentioned. Some don't use computers much (older folks), and some don't typically join forums. If you are sociable and wanting to solve a sudden problem with your car, impulsively joining a forum and asking a few rash questions is understandable. Be gentle.


I'll go out on a limb say that the thrill to a novice mechanic at having fixed a nagging minor problem might be no less than that felt by the senior member who fires up a 2j the first time. (That's a stretch, but there's some truth there)
 

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Netiquette on web forums is still part of a subculture that not everyone shares for the reasons some have mentioned. Some don't use computers much (older folks), and some don't typically join forums. If you are sociable and wanting to solve a sudden problem with your car, impulsively joining a forum and asking a few rash questions is understandable. Be gentle.


I'll go out on a limb say that the thrill to a novice mechanic at having fixed a nagging minor problem might be no less than that felt by the senior member who fires up a 2j the first time. (That's a stretch, but there's some truth there)
I can't believe this .... 3 posts, different New Members ....

http://forums.celicasupra.com/showthread.php?t=42553

http://forums.celicasupra.com/showthread.php?t=42568

http://forums.celicasupra.com/showthread.php?t=42569

All within aprox. 3 hours on te same day.

People, please, at least look at the other threads on the first page of the sub-forum you are posting in. Obviously using search is waayyyyy too much effort, considering, these 3 are stacked as of this post.
I agree with you both... I too noticed a shit ton of suspension questions that, hell, I shouldn't have asked earlier this year!
 

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Yeah, I joined this forum way before I got a supra. I lurk around to get more info on the car, because I was pretty sure I was going to get one. I was just waiting on the right one to come along and BAM i find her.

But I agree that searching through the forums and reading up on things before posting is a good idea. I did it that way, because I didn't know much about the car. I didn't even know what a p-type and l-type was, until I read up on some threads. I'm still learning about these cars, so I still lurk, but I think it's better than making the same threads asking the same questions over and over again that can easily be searched. It also helps you not to make a fool of yourself "....Uh wats a p-type?" LOL!
 

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Be gentle.
I'll go out on a limb say that the thrill to a novice mechanic at having fixed a nagging minor problem might be no less than that felt by the senior member who fires up a 2j the first time. (That's a stretch, but there's some truth there)
that's a short limb.
 

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I recall the day when I joined a forum dedicated to the Honda Insight hybrid car that I drive as a daily driver and got royally flamed for using the term "piston slap". The head honcho mod tried his best to convince me that there's no such thing as piston slap and insisted on referring to the term as "piston percussion". Well, since I happen to be a drummer, I had a real hay day w/that idiot. :facesjump
 

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I drove a Supra long before I joined CS.com. Since then, I've been more inclined to do some of the mods I found here, and some of my own creation, having kept my ride stock so many years.
Flaming is an age old initiation rite - going thru the gauntlet. If you lurk too long for fear of being made a fool, you may not get your feet wet.
We can learn from our own mistakes or from the experience of others. I'm glad there is this forum - with a huge reference base and many experienced Supra owners here with helpful tips.
For anyone, being a newb is a learning curve...
 

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Years after joining, I still primarily lurk. The problem with the old SOGI was pompous cocks (aka the mk4 guys). My first post to that list was in 98, or maybe 99, and was met with a minor shit storm of elitism. In hindsight, the symptoms I described easily boiled down to fuel cut, but was basically told what I observed was irrelevant without instrumentation because I didn't know what i was talking about.

Here, we do have layers of attitude, but despite junkies best efforts i don't find him elitist at all. ;)
 
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