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NEW SOLID BODY SIDE MOLDINGS ARE COMING!
If you're not sitting down right now, you should.
Greetings all! In the past 20 years, I've done group buys on Addco sway bars, Ground Control coilovers, Griffin rads, and my own design fan shroud kits plus other parts for our cars. For many years, I've been silently working on a solution to the rotting body side moldings for the MA and RA Celica/Supra, and now that is about to move forward.
Recently, I met with another member, Billy_GTS who I found was also working on reprodicing the moldings, (he has recently created horn emblems, corner markers and now sunroof glide components) and we decided to join forces as he has the expertise and contacts in the polymer industry that I do not. So together we are reproducing them using a set of new second gen solid rubber moldings that I've had in storage as masters.
These will be molded using materials with the same resilience of the OEM trim in order to stay rigid in southern heat but still absorb door impacts as they were designed to do, as opposed to other hard surface materials and will adhere with 3M VHB/UHB tape.
There will be 4 different sets available, which will cater to both P and L Type Supras, pre and post 84 style, as well as Celicas.
For those who don't know, sometime in the late 80s, Toyota replaced the metal core clip-on moldings with these, and now, they are also unobtanium. Most of you have seen your moldings explode from rust, or are not totally flat due to the metal core. These will be visibly nicer than what you currently have, and will last longer than the car, or even you, possibly.....
At this time, we don't know final production costs, and it will be based on order by deposit basis. We expect to keep this in the sub $950/set price range, which is less than what a new OEM set would have been. This will be a costly endeavour just to produce the 14 different molds needed, and that needs to be amortized out over the production run. The more sets presold, the better the price will be for everyone, and that price will be permanently set, barring increases in raw materials. We haven't determined how many will be produced initially, as that depends on the response.
Things just cost what they cost, and it's your call what it is worth to you to maintain the OEM look on these fine cars. I've been looking for years and found nothing even remotely close. These are for both MA Supra and RA Celica owners, so feel free to propogate this on other forums and groups if I haven't already.


If you want to push this forward, we will be taking deposits of $100, (which will be refundable only if this goes off the rails, not if you just change your mind) to secure a set when the time comes. The more committed buyers up front, the better idea we will have of a final price, and ETA on production. If you are interested, and ready to commit, email me at celicasupramoldings at gto dot net.

If you are 100% interested in a set, use the link below to enter your info so you can reserve yours, and specify which version you want. Deposits will be requested shortly, so keep an eye on this posting.

 

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People, let’s get this done. Your metal core moldings will rot eventually! I’m in for 2 sets.
 

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On my phone I don't see the date of this post. Is this a new post? If so, count me in. My son stepped out of the passenger side and crushed the rust core door sill outer trim piece. Sorry. I cant remember what it is called. Those would be nice to replace as well.
 

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These are all the belt moldings, 10 pcs total. I don't know which other molding you are referring to. A pic would help. The rocker molding is currently available in FG, check the FB group for that link.
 

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This is not the side mouldings but the piece here in the red box under the doors.

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I don't know what it is called but would love to get some that aren't floppy rust filled plastic bags.
 

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Someone has done a fibreglass repro, so not sure if we will tackle that in urethane as well.
 
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Do these folks have previous work on side moldings with pics you can share? That would really help the case here. Following this closely, on the fence honestly but i'm sure this is the type of item that won't get made again...
 

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These are all the belt moldings, 10 pcs total. I don't know which other molding you are referring to. A pic would help. The rocker molding is currently available in FG, check the FB group for that link.
I don't have access to my old CDs right now, but as I recall, Toyota called the weatherstrip/trim at the top of the doors and under the quarter windows (4 pieces) the belt moldings (which didn't sound logical but maybe lost something in translation) and the stuff we're talking about here were simply called "body side moldings" as in the thread title.
 
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The 'Belt Molding' is at the top of the door and just below the quarter windows.
What you are showing is 'Side Molding'.
Your thread title is correct but you made a statement that these are the 'Belt Moldings' a couple of posts up. Just wanted to clear up any confusion. If you look at the 'exploded view of parts' link in my sig it will show the differences in names and all that. Toyota calls things differently.
 

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Do these folks have previous work on side moldings with pics you can share? That would really help the case here. Following this closely, on the fence honestly but i'm sure this is the type of item that won't get made again...
me too and agreed, at around $1000, make this kinda out of my budget..

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Theses were from 50$ (small front) up to 175$ (door) many years ago.
Now unobtainable from Toyota. So for all the 10 pieces, that is about what it cost for, 15 years ago.
For those that know Phil, and seen recent work of art from Billy, no doubt these will be as good, if not better than what was available then.
 

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So to make sure that I understand, you are referring to the following Toyota parts.

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Not a perfect diagram, but the best I could find for now.

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Are your estimated prices in Canadian or US Dollars?
If these are Canadian Dollars, for you American members, the price would be a great deal. Today, the exchange rate is 0.73 USD to 1.00 Canadian Dollar so you would get 25% off.

I agree when the above posters. These parts have not been available for a long time and no matter how immaculate your restoration is, the side mouldings are going to be wavy because of the rusty metal inserts. Unless your car spent it's entire life under cover, the back side of the mouldings is going to be scary bad!

Just to confirm, you plan on making the 82-83 parts available as well?

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So when is the final amount due? So many of these group buys here are two weeks notice for some expensive thing. I've got a set of OEM ones, but would be interested if they fit good and are out a few months so I can plan for them. Right now I've got several grand worth of stuff at the machine shop getting made.
 

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Are your estimated prices in Canadian or US Dollars?
If these are Canadian Dollars, for you American members, the price would be a great deal. Today, the exchange rate is 0.73 USD to 1.00 Canadian Dollar so you would get 25% off.

I agree when the above posters. These parts have not been available for a long time and no matter how immaculate your restoration is, the side mouldings are going to be wavy because of the rusty metal inserts. Unless your car spent it's entire life under cover, the back side of the mouldings is going to be scary bad!
These will most likely appeal to the owners who are planning a full repaint. If you're going to spend $5,000-$8,000 on body work and a decent paint job, the old trim is going to be so obvious and let down the whole restoration. I see it at car shows every weekend, classic cars with fresh paint but pitted chrome and dull and dented stainless because its so expensive. I recently finished an old Corvette and paid a guy $900 to polish the trim rings and the stainless t-top trim and that was a bargain. Be grateful that you're not restoring an old Cadillac.

Supra may be a cheap car, but restoration ain't a cheap hobby no matter what car you're doing. Its like they warn newbies on the Jaguar forum. An XJ6 may have depreciated really fast and you can buy it for a song, but the parts in the warehouse didn't depreciate and are still priced as if they are going on a brand new high-end luxury car. If you want it to look and drive like a new car, you're going to have spend like its a new car.

So everyone, you've been working from home for months, not going out to eat or anything, saving money from the COVID restrictions. Just keep doing that for a few more months and put your money in a piggy bank till you can afford these new trim pieces. You know that three, five, ten years from now when you're ready to paint, that you're going to kick yourself if you didn't buy these while you had the chance.
 

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The mk2 has never been a cheap car to restore. Even 20 years ago it was pretty routine for people doing a paint job to hit up the dealer and drop $2k+ on new side mouldings, flare trim, double wing seals and rocker mouldings. When we painted DeanFun's 85 back in 2014, Dean bought up as much as he could, we managed to put all new side mouldings on his car but even then several were sold out and we had to get longer versions of some pieces and cut them down. And he also got the last part in stock in the US on several pieces as I recall.

This is awesome you guys are doing this, I've been talking to Bill about how I planned on getting this done myself. Its been on mine and George's hit list for years. I have a complete set of the 2nd gen Toyota stuff so we were going to get BC rubber to make an extrusion and then make moulds of all the unique end caps. Likely we would have ended up with a similar situation as with the double wing spoiler kit, where the cost would be very reasonable, but there would have been a lot of onus on the buyer to fully assemble and trim it well to get a really good final fit. Which has its ups and downs of course.

Can you guys work it so that this stuff can continue to be in production into the future? Maybe figure something out with George. One off buys are great for some things, but with repro stuff it only fills a void temporarily. Myself I'm on the fence as I mentioned I have a set stashed and my funds are a little preoccupied this year, but it certainly would be wise to stash another set.
 

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I'm in but we need more details on timeline for the final product. Ill email ya too.
 
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