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Has anyone installed a remote oil filter on a 5M? The stock location of the filter is horrible, and a remote adapter seems in order. Has anyone relocated their oil filter? If so, whose kit did you use and where did you install it?

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What's so hard about it? You can see it right from the top. Personally I don't like these kits since its so easy to get wrong and anything goes wrong with a hose you're out a motor.
 

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What's so hard about it? You can see it right from the top. Personally I don't like these kits since its so easy to get wrong and anything goes wrong with a hose you're out a motor.
Yes, I can see it, but that doesn't make it any easier to remove and install a filter. There is very little room to use the filter wrench, and I've used a couple different types.
 

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Everyone who has added a ct-26 turbo has a relocation kit because the pipes are in the way. So check the threads related to 5mgte. I can't remember where I got mine 20 some odd years ago, probably was a universal kit from Summit Racing, but I didn't use the hoses or fittings that came with the kit, rather I used a much larger hose, some very expensive high-temp hydraulic hose that I got from a local industrial hose shop, and ran them so as there weren't any bends, just long swooping curves to minimize pressure drop. With the turbo piping, we've got to have angled fittings off the block, but try to avoid 90s as that's a pressure drop. I hung mine on the frame rail on the left side which is a long hose run. I worry about it all the time but its been across country, autocrossed two seasons and held up for 20 years so far, although that's only about 8,000 miles in total.
 

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Yes, I can see it, but that doesn't make it any easier to remove and install a filter. There is very little room to use the filter wrench, and I've used a couple different types.
You're putting the oil filter on wrong if you can't unscrew it by hand, but if you do need to use the socket kind that fit over the end vs the plier type. But if you do want a remote filter kit any for a Ford will fit.
 

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Agreed, use the socket kind with a rachet---no big whoop and I also think it's fairly easy to work on where it is.
 

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You're putting the oil filter on wrong if you can't unscrew it by hand, but if you do need to use the socket kind that fit over the end vs the plier type. But if you do want a remote filter kit any for a Ford will fit.
If you are only installing a filter hand tight, you are not installing it properly. Most filters need to be installed hand tight, then an additional turn spec is required, which can vary from one filter application to another. There is a certain amount of gasket compression the manufacturer specifies for each filter/application.
 

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I had an HKS one on my A80 for about 3 years before one of the hoses failed ! Almost lost my 2JZ...IMHO not worth it !!!!

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If you are only installing a filter hand tight, you are not installing it properly. Most filters need to be installed hand tight, then an additional turn spec is required, which can vary from one filter application to another. There is a certain amount of gasket compression the manufacturer specifies for each filter/application.

Come on man! Those instructions were written with small ladies in mind. Snug up the filter and then give it the spec turn with your man grip.
 

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Come on man! Those instructions were written with small ladies in mind. Snug up the filter and then give it the spec turn with your man grip.
A man grip is fine, if you can get in there in order to grip it--I can't. Maybe I haven't found the sweet spot to get at it, but compared to every other car I've ever owned, this filter is in a poor location (not to mention the way it mounts). Toyota does so many things right (at least they used to), how did this get into the design?

I work in the filter industry, and those specs are there for a reason. There have been issues with some filters/manufacturers with the material used for the gasket necessitating specific requirements for tightening--not every filter has the same specs for tightening. Engineers establish a certain specification for a reason. Yes, generally a ballpark tightening is just fine, but there have been instances where improper tightening has been a problem.
 

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Toyota m series is a grab bag from 1950s domestic straight sixes. Ford thread on the oil filter nipple, so universal ford relocation kit.
 

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Unless you REALLY need one,,,,,,,,,,,,do not do it!

I did a remote spin-on filter for my A/T tranny and it ALWAYS leaks!
Continuous rust treatment.
If those lines fail,I will lose the tranny.

I have done oil/filter changes on a filter that EYE installed to specs and the bastard was tight,beyond belief.
They do get tight on their own. That's what the oil filter wrenches are for.Some cars are crazy-hard to get to!
2001 Civic's come to mind.
 

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I too hate the OEM oil filter location so installed a remote decades ago. There's a few things to consider though. First, don't bother buying any kits. The hoses are crap and won't last long and the cheap cast adapters can be a problem as well. I cracked my first cheap on engine adapter trying to get it tight enough not to leak. I would suggest Earl's for the two adapters. The engine adapter is a standard Ford item as is the filter mount. But you'll need to figure out where you plan to mount the filter to determine which adapter you need.
I also discovered that the only o-rings that work on the engine adapter for long without leaking is one from an actual oil filter. None of the special o-rings that came with any of the adapters or any of the multitude of others I tried worked without leaking for long. So I bought the cheapest oil filter with the correct size o-ring and haven't had any problems since.
I have my filter mounted under the passenger headlight behind the bumper which makes it a breeze to change without the mess of spilled oil. It also allows me to pre-fill the filter when replacing it. I suppose it might be somewhat vulnerable to road debris mounted there, but a simple shield made from a cut down coffee can or something similar would fix that. But in 30+ years, I've never had a problem.
For the hoses and fittings, on the engine adapter the fittings are too close to use more than 1 45 degree fitting, so I just used standard nipples. Same on the filter mount. Have your hoses custom made at a place like Napa. They'll use high pressure, high quality hydraulic hoses which will last for many years. I had them use 45 degree fittings on the engine ends which allows the hoses to be as far as practical away from the hot header/exhaust and 90 degree fittings at the filter mount end. I looped the hoses above the filter to keep them as short and straight as possible.
 
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