i never had a problemin winter driving, the 2 times i wiped out is because i was driving stupid, the 2 times i got half stuck once was from driving stupid and the other was having a foot tall drift around my car. i used eagle t/r's 215 in width. Sagging suspension created so much camber that i just dug in, good wet and dry traction, now i have 1.3 inch lowering srings and it sits about the same.