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Hi guys,

I'm new to the list, and after doing some extensive reading, need to confirm a few details before I set out on the JZA61 track as have many other intrepid adventurer's !! :D

Just want to confirm a few details. I am in the process of searching for a suitable car for which to begin the project with, and having trouble finding a decent 5 speed, most of them are bloody autos !!

Here go the questions ;
#1 - If a 1JZ engine is purchased, regardless of where it comes from, what sump arrangement is required - Front, middle or rear ? SSS has a engine from an auto with the loom, computer etc for $1500
#2 - by how much 'doesn't' a R154 box fit by ? Is it a hammer job, or some tunnel cut and shut work ? - I can source a R154 box, but not sure if it is worth the hassle ?
#3 - It seems pretty hard to find the bellhousing to mate a 1JZ to a W58 apart from buying one from Toyota for lot$a - Does anyone have a good supplier ?
#4 - I plan to avoid some of the wiring hassle by using a Haltech E6X - any experience/problems/good info ?

Thanks again guys in advance

Cheers

Michael Bachmann
JZA61 coming to South Oz :shock: :lol:
 

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Michael,

You will need a front sump 1jz, any other arrangement won't fit.

I believe the r154 isn't as bad a fit as what is thought. I don't know for sure, but Norbie might.

As far as bellhousings go, you'd need a custom adaptor, I think. I've already seen one of these, but I don't know who made it. It was on a single turbo 1jz from a chaser mated to the standard w58. I'm sure it's bumming around Adelaide somewhere. Unfortunately I don't know who owns it, and the fellow that did the conversion doesn't work where he used to, and it was about 2 years ago when I saw it.

As to using a Haltech, no idea myself. I'd be more inclined to use the existing wiring myself, I'm not a big fan of anything but the high-end stuff. I feel that you will always lose the inherent driveability that a factory system has. Also a programmable system will only ever be as good as the guy who tunes it, if you can find someone that has installed the e6x on a 1jz, get hold of the owner of the car, find out what it drives like etc.

Look forward to you getting it on the road, will be good to see another fast mk2 in Adelaide :)

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JZA61

Thanks guys for the info. :D

The big problem seems to be finding a decent car at a decent price.

Any suggestions on what a good 5 speed should be worth ? :lol: Some are asking $7500 ???? :shock:


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Buy a manual front cut. This is what I tell everyone, but a lot of people think they can save money by purchasing the engine and/or transmission separately. In 99% of cases this just doesn't work out - there's always some vital component missing, and you'll have a hell of a time finding that component without buying new from Toyota. If you get a front cut, you can be 100% sure you have everything you need to do the conversion, plus you often get useful extra bits (eg big brakes). Engine conversions are hard enough as it is, so you want to keep it as simple as possible. Trust me, I've done several engine conversions now and even the supposedly simple ones give you plenty of headaches!

Yes the R154 will fit with some minor "adjustment" with a hammer. The W58 will fit with no mods whatsoever, but you'll need to find a 2JZ-GE bellhousing first. The ToyMods forum is a good place to source these; I think someone was selling one recently.

A Haltech or similar is a good option if you're planning serious upgrades (ie bigger turbo(s) and the required fuel system mods). If you're likely to keep the standard turbos for a while, I'd recommend you keep the factory electronics. That way you get the factory reliability, smooth idle, good fuel economy etc and don't have to worry about getting it dyno tuned.

As for prices, a 1JZ manual front cut goes for $3-3.5k from what I've seen. Who the hell was asking $7500 for a 5-speed? You can buy a JZA80 front cut with 6-speed for less than that!
 

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Hi Norbie,

:oops: Whoops, I meant $1500 for a 5 speed. My typing gets very dyslexic at certain times.

The suppliers of the 1JZ manual cuts are where???? The best price I have been able to get for a 2JZ-GTE (engine alone) was from SSS for $3k, with 1JZ-GTE 1/2 cuts (all auto's) starting at $3.5k, with many not having anything but autos :cry:

Was the manual 1/2 cut that you mentioned a 1JZ-GTE with a R154 ? Also, wouldn't it need to be an Aristo for the correct sump (and these only came with auto ?)

I appreciate your comments Norbie, as I found your website with Project 2JZ to be a great help and provide the spark of inspiration, but am finding it hard to get a good donor car in Adelaide to start with, let alone the 1/2 cut required

Cheers agian

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Michael,

Your dilema will be that for front mount sump, you need a Chaser or Aristo halfcut - niether of which came with a manual!

So you could look at getting a manual halfcut, and adding a front sump (hard to find, but relatively cheap), or getting the auto Chaser halfcut.

Good luck!

Justin
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Chaser manuals DO exist, but they're relatively hard to find. Have a chat with Rolin Automotive Imports in Qld, their prices are good and their service is excellent. Asian Auto Spares is another fairly good one (also in Qld). Don't limit yourself to local importers; shipping interstate is only a few hundred bucks, so it's often well worth it.

EDIT: the front cut I was referring to was a JZA70 with an R154. It actually came from Adelaide, but I would NOT recommend that particular importer after what happened.
 

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That importer in Adelaide ???

Hi Norbie,

Care to PM me the importer to avoid in Adelaide, as I hate crappy service.

Have dealt with Asian Auto Spares and found them pretty good previously, so, based on your advice will keep trying

Thanks again

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I happily stand corrected with regard to Chaser manuals :D

C-red tuning in WA just got a JZX100 halfcut in - $4,500. First triple digit Chaser I've seen advertised. Wish it had been around 6 months ago :cry:
 

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the front cut I was referring to was a JZA70 with an R154. It actually came from Adelaide, but I would NOT recommend that particular importer after what happened.
Yeah, I'd recommend staying away from them also.

Apparently one of the guys that used to work there has started up his own place and essentially took all the good suppliers with him, I have no idea what the name of his place is though. I think they were generally ok before this happened...
 

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Who in Adelaide ?????

Hi guys,

Who in Adelaide should we stay away from ?

Mind you, most of them are too bloody expensive to consider anyway...

Cheers, I'm still looking for a car though as well :lol:
 
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