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This needs to be said. There are things on these engines that shouldn't ever need to be adjusted and never should be because they are set at the factory. And things you can rule out being problematic at WOT and Idle.

Idle Speed - this setting is the screw by the throttlebody under the rubber cap. The computer automatically controls the idle speed so this screw doesn't ever need to be messed with. If you think your idle is too slow/fast, first, check the idle speed with a REAL tach, not the one in the gauge cluster this one is wrong i can almost garuntee that. if it is still low/fast check your Idle Speed Control Valve (iscv)(the motor looking thing protruding from the intake manifold twards the front. Put a screw driver on it and your ear to the butt of the driver if it clicks it's working fine. and also if you turn off the engine and you hear a series of clicks from the engine bay it's working fine).

Idle Mixture - the computer is in closed loop mode at cold idle. If the engine is running rich it's normal. If it's running rich/lean durring warm idle you prolly need a new o2 sensor or it's a fuel delivery system problem or the ecu doesn't know it's warm.

At cold Idle and WOT the following parts can't be giving you trouble because they aren't used:
Mass Airflow Meter(AFM)
Oxygen Sensor(OXS) (the oxygen sensor can never throw the computer off so far that the engine won't run. it'll detect the abnormallity and discontinue use of the o2 sensor. this will make it go rich but my bad o2 sensor never caused my car any troubles.)

Want to know how far off your tach is? In normal mode the engine shifts at 5200 at WOT and 5600 in PWR. The engine shifts out of first 300 rpm later then any other gear no matter how far down the pedal is pressed.

i've found that only at the 1k mark is the tach correct. anything else and it's off by about 150(below 1k mark)-400rpm(near redline).

Hope this helps people rule things out when they are troubleshooting. I know there are more things that don't need adjusted and more sensors that aren't used but i'm a lil out of it. Add any of them if you can think of them before i add them.

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the egr system shouldn't be on at either hard acceleration or idle but if it is on can cause very rough idle and even stalling at every stop if the gas isn't held down.

this can be fixed by cleaning the entire egr system not just the egr piping and valve but the egrcm. i can garuntee you that thing is very nasty. my 88 cressida with 110k miles's egrcm was filthy and packed full of hard carbon. imagine an 82 with 200+k miles?
 

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The AFM can be adjusted, it yields better mid-range throttle response if you loosen the spring 2-3 notches. It is not an adjustment that "will fix" a problem.
 

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also the idle scew will have to be adjusted in many cases as its the first thing most people and mechanics will adjust if the idle is incorrect. Very few mk2s will have that screw still set at where it was from the factory.
 

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also the idle scew will have to be adjusted in many cases as its the first thing most people and mechanics will adjust if the idle is incorrect. Very few mk2s will have that screw still set at where it was from the factory.
i know i changed mine on my dad's advice. i believe it was turned 3/4 turn to the right to bring the idle down from 1000.
 

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was your dads car standard? with the ac on it's supposed to idle at 900. maybe the tach was off. i've never adjusted mine. and as i said my idle is still perfect. the idle shouldn't be off unless there is a vacuume leak or the pickup coils in the distributor are not working right. cuz idle is computer regulated anything wrong with it is probably electrical or ilcalibrated test equipment.
 

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Valvetrain....

Unlike the older M & R series SOHC motors that needed a valve lash adjustment every 15K miles, our 5M/6MGE's DON'T need this. They have hydraulic lifters & are self adjusting. If your valvetrain is making funny noises or doing other things of the missbehaving nature, you have other problems.

Nice idea on this posting Kyle!!!! Can someone also make this a sticky??
 
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