Doc, I believe there is a TB coolant hose that comes off under the intake as well besides the heater hose off the back left exh side to the heater valve??

 

I would guess its a not easy removal unless the head was off??

 

I have the entire intake side off, so I think there might be enough room.

Guess I'll find out!

 

Doc there's a mounting bolt under the intake side as well see pic for reference

 

Yep, got the intake side bracket/clip off. It's attached to the lower intake manifold, IIRC.

The only thing holding it on (it can be wiggled a bit) are the two bolts on the back of the water pump.

I'll give it a try after I eat dinner....

UPDATE: The two nuts holding the pipe to the water pump came off easy-peasy. The pipe didn't wiggle as much as I thought it would, so I looked at the picture Arch posted. OOOPS! There's two more brackets on the exhaust side! Now I have to see if I can get a wrench on them to get them loose.
Otherwise it's pull the exhaust manifold.....

 

My guess is the camshaft housings will prevent you from pulling it up..

 

Updated my last post....

 

Not sure what engine you are working on but you know the 4ME I just disassembled in my thread..I did not pay much attention. But I do remember even with the head removed on mine it was still took a little bending then to even get it over the block deck.. But I also never removed the little flange at the front either..I just took the whole assembly off. I can see if the engine is still in the car, and the head on it could be a real pain..

I am curious why are you removing yours and why do they call it the suicide hose. Can it be eliminated or bypassed with just a rubber hose..I assume it has something to do with having the heater and AC climate control work..I will not be running AC, so if it can go..I am all for less clutter..

 

It's on the 5M-GE in my 1985. This is an ongoing project. The car had a spotty maintenance history and was a grease pit under the hood due to a leaking power steering pressure hose, and a driver's side valve cover that had seriously leaked at some point. I started out with the goal of changing out the timing belt and tensioner, and the more I got into the car the more things I noticed that needed attention. So, since I had a ton of new parts waiting, I decided to just go for it, and stripped off the entire intake side. I have a set of new flow-tested injectors that I'll be replacing, along with cleaning up the wiring harness and rewrapping it. I'm also replacing a lot of the plastic shells that the various electrical connectors have as many of them are cracked/crumbling/disintegrated. And I'm adding relays for the high beams I installed, and upgrading the charging system.

"Suicide Hose"....I've heard it's either because of it causes a major, RAPID loss of coolant if the hose ruptures, causing your engine to commit suicide, -OR- that looking at what it takes to replace it is enough to make you contemplate suicide!

I want to clean, inspect, possibly repair, and paint the tube to eliminate any rust on it.

And it looks like it will come off easily if I pull the exhaust manifold so I can lift it out of there.

 

Got it.. I better inspect mine now knowing this..Make sure it is sound on the inside and out..Thanks

 

ALL of my hoses were soft and squishy, and were bulging at the hose clamps. I'd go with all new hoses since you can get at all the "hard stuff" so much better while the engine is out.

 

Yes I will be doing that for sure..Thanks